Tricky vs. Goldie


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thirdform

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you literally couldn't get more having sex with Jessica from Somerset in first year of university than Tricky. his whole career was literally built on appealing to that demographic. dj shadow probably had quite a few hip hop fans but Tricky didn't.
 

droid

Beast of Burden
 

thirdform

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Portishead as well. i literally support genocide against all Portishead fans worldwide. im team patty on this thing lads go and find good rare groove/rare soul/boogie records.
 

the ig

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the whole 'having sex with arabella who didn't get into cambridge' set where i went were into puffas, timberlands, d'n'b and 2step

'maxinquaye' was too 'one of mummy's 3 coffeetable CDs', lol, and too darn obvious (cos it was bristol)

i hear tricky thru indie, indeed, and postpunk and indus, as well as soul and whatnot, meanwhile all that watery dullard digger's instru hiphop like dj shadow has completely dropped away

there's dread in tricky, oodles of it, not a smidgen in massive/portishead, the basic ingredients may be the same, the feels v diff
 
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thirdform

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the whole 'having sex with arabella who didn't get into cambridge' set where i went were into puffas, timberlands, d'n'b and 2step

'maxinquaye' was too 'one of mummy's 3 coffeetable CDs', lol, and too darn obvious (cos it was bristol)

i hear tricky thru indie, indeed, and postpunk and indus, as well as soul and whatnot, meanwhile all that watery dullard digger's instru hiphop like dj shadow has completely dropped away

there's dread in tricky, oodles of it, not a smidgen in massive/portishead, the basic ingredients may be the same, the feels v diff

1) this must have been late 90s. times change.

2) I'm not sticking up for dj shadow! he only got interesting when he made hyphy records.

3) who said it was dnb and timbaland? no i used to put on masonna and Archie Shepp for Camilla and Annabelle, which explains why they left before we'd finished all the booze and gotten down to the business. Jack used to woo Jessica with royksopp and portishead and Air though.

4) indie boys can't be dread. it's a contradiction in terms, only screaming 170 bpm hard acid can get close to that feeling for us not from Jamaica. dj.ungle fever etc.
 
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thirdform

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any Jamaican will tell you they love making babies and partying. that's why their spiritual experiences have to be slow and deep. however us bastardised turko-cum-cologne-cum-north london anglo repressed rasta battybwoys have to go beyond sex. sex does not exist for us. it's like atheism.

our spiritual experiences must be hyper antihuman reggae. that is dread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDxBKzWJwy8
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
The craziest coincidence just happened

I'm in a coffee shop and I listened to a bit of that aftermath tune catalog posted (never heard it before)

Took off my headphones and they're playing it in the fucking coffee shop!
 

catalog

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I am actually interested in checking out more tricky cos I've never bothered.

There used to be a documentary on YouTube about Goldie called Saturn returnz. Dunno what I'd make of it now in my cynical early middle age but at the time I watched it I found it incredibly inspirational. His passion for music and both hiphop and rave culture, which had helped propel him out of a Wolverhampton housing estate to Miami and then the world... Just going at music full throttle.

Obviously many ppl associate him with The Face and Bjork and jungle selling out and going jazzy - but that isn't what he meant to me, nor was Metalheadz.

Check out the early doc on tricky, naked and famous, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL76D58291BC08C1F3 might be a good way in. Similar story, i would say. I do like the bit in ‘bombin’ where they go round goldies flat and hes drawn all over the walls. Tricky still more mental, thats probably why i prefer him. I remember being at school and he got nominated for a brit, and the photo of him showed him in whiteface and a wedding dress. Tricky is off the chain. Even to this day, that is saying a lot.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
I was seriously standing there dumbstruck

Walking up to their speaker, comparing it to the YouTube clip - this - this can't be happening

Voodoo magic mon
 

catalog

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anyway dr. octagon lyrically shits over Tricky. proper creepy darkside! but you don't like hip hop...

I like where tricky took hip hop, how he made it into his own. I do like kool keith as well as it happens, but still. Suffocated love, the lines in that...
 

catalog

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you literally couldn't get more having sex with Jessica from Somerset in first year of university than Tricky. his whole career was literally built on appealing to that demographic. dj shadow probably had quite a few hip hop fans but Tricky didn't.

As if he gives a shit about appealing to that demographic!
 
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