Social Engineering.

luka

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I missed this story from last year. Koch and Soros teaming up to fund 'The Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.'
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
The sense that there was a top down attempt to normalise multiracial society. To make people accept it. I think there was, at some level. And I think that that was probably a good thing.

But they're so fucking ham fisted about it.

Those TfL posters that feature a white bloke, an east Asian woman and a mixed race woman, poring over a tube map together...

The epitome of this has to be United Colours of Benetton - though of course that's a commercial company, not a government body - which really took wokeness-as-marketing to its logical conclusion. My brain always tries to turn 'Benetton' into 'Ben Elton', which is kind of appropriate too.
 

luka

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One problem is that as soon as people start seeing it as artificial, as an agenda, I think it's hard for them to accept it in any other way. you can see having an Asian family on Eastenders, for example, as the sign of an agenda, or as tokenism, but on the other hand you won't find many streets in the actual east end without an Asian family.
 

entertainment

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Hollywood tends to perform this in such a hamfisted way, that you have to suspect that they're actually pursiuing the opposite ends, tainting the agenda of equality and diversity.

Like those all women remakes of male nerd mythology movies - it's like they're intending to antagonize people.
 

Mr. Tea

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Like those all women remakes of male nerd mythology movies - it's like they're intending to antagonize people.

I do have to wonder what the fuck that remake/reboot of Ghostbusters was supposed to achieve. I mean it was obviously going to be shit because those sorts of things always are. Wouldn't it be better to come up with some completely new stories featuring strong female leads?
 

entertainment

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I do have to wonder what the fuck that remake/reboot of Ghostbusters was supposed to achieve. I mean it was obviously going to be shit because those sorts of things always are. Wouldn't it be better to come up with some completely new stories featuring strong female leads?

Yeah, it's so dumb that you think it can't real, but you can just visualise the pitch from an enthused marketing exec explaining how the movie will cash in on nostalgia while taking things in a progressive direction. People convincing themselves that it's a fantastic idea.

I did some copywriting for a few months for this ad agency and one of the younger strategists gave this talk about pitfalls in new cultural marketing, using the Kendall Jenner Pepsi ad as an example, but then the next day I swear I sat there listening to the entire room praising an idea that was equally as dumb.
 

version

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The silly thing is if you just make stuff with diverse casts without trying to use it as a gimmick or selling point then the majority of people seem perfectly fine with it. The Fast & Furious films have diverse casts and, afaik, haven't received any sort of backlash.
 

pattycakes_

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Yeah if you don't try to draw attention to it and just present it as if it's normal. Because it fucking is. That's pretty much how it gets perceived. Kind of like sly and the family stone. No fuss necessary
 

Mr. Tea

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Yeah if you don't try to draw attention to it and just present it as if it's normal. Because it fucking is. That's pretty much how it gets perceived. Kind of like sly and the family stone. No fuss necessary

I know it's kind of the least cool and relevant thing you can think of in 2020, but Red Dwarf was doing this back in the 80s. Maybe it was easier with a fantastical setting? I dunno, but it was never remotely in-yer-face about having black guys and white guys sharing the lead parts.
 

entertainment

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i don't think they mean it like these people are inspiring role models, but more in the sense that they played a big role in making homosexuality accepted in the rest of the culture
 

Mr. Tea

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Have we got a gay who could possibly confirm what patty and tea are saying?

There was a big bust-up here years ago over Alan Carr between mistersloane and, IIRC, Patrick Swayze (well, the guy who posted here for a while using that name, I mean I assume it wasn't 'the' Patrick Swayze but you never know).
 
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Leo

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in the states, the world-champion "gay normalizer" was/is Ellen DeGeneres. Beloved by Middle America for her daytime talkshow, funny and non-threatening.
 

luka

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Mike Yardley
@YardleyShooting
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Feb 16
I'm not racist at all. I've two mixed race kids. But, I'm utterly fed up with multi-cultural and other PC propaganda on BBC & other mainstream media & advertising. It is social engineering, there seems to be a neo-Marxist subplot. Why? Who controls it all? The intensity grows.
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leslie clynes-green
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I totally agree and also have mixed races in my own family. If a visitor from outer space (impossible, yes) were to visit the UK and watch out tv channels I am convinced they would believe that whites were the minority here.
 

luka

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Ruth McNeill
@InfoBears
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@YardleyShooting
It’s constant. I used to like Radio 4, but now it is continuous diversity, multicultural, minority groups, immigrants, refugees, LGBT issues, discussions, dramas. Has even infiltrated the Archers It is indeed sinister social engineering.
 
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