The Coming Authoritarianism.

Clinamenic

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
What precedents are there for anti-trust regulation of companies operating across sectors? I gather anti-trust regards anti-competitive behavior intra-sector, but what about multi-sector businesses like Amazon? Would state anti-trust committees allow multi-sector businesses to keep metastasizing so long as they aren't too egregious in terms of anti-competitive behavior?

Seems like the likes of Amazon could eventually, if not already, establish its own supply chains and effectively become economically semi-autonomous from nation states with anti-trust committees.
 
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wild greens

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I dont know enough about American anti-trust to answer the actual question properly but last time i used amazon it seemed like they are at it everywhere to me? Close to a year ago now tho

Search for anything and get their weird ripoffs
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
This is a really interesting interview - it's subject is "tankies" i.e. assholes who identify with authoritarian governments if said govts oppose Amerikkka. I know these people from seeing them lie about genocide in Syria and the Middle East and so kinda despise them but the interviewee shows there's something else going on, alongside the moral failure: https://breachmedia.ca/is-the-enemy...4Rop-3082sA7aATs47BbCW1TweT3OVHDbV84st6SmhPM0
 
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DannyL said:
This is a really interesting interview - it's subject is "tankies" i.e. assholes who identify with authoritarian governments if said govts oppose Amerikkka. I know these people from seeing them lie about genocide in Syria and the Middle East and so kinda despise them but the interviewee shows there's something else going on, alongside the moral failure: https://breachmedia.ca/is-the-enemy...4Rop-3082sA7aATs47BbCW1TweT3OVHDbV84st6SmhPM0
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I don't know enough about the history or theory to know whether he's right about everything, but it makes sense to me and the response to the article on Twitter's exactly as you'd expect: people attacking the site, saying they refuse to read something by a guy with his credentials, posting shit memes etc.

Seems crazy to me to present yourself as "anti-imperialist" then throw your support behind Chinese or Russian imperialism simply because it's opposed to American imperialism. You can't call yourself anti-imperialist in that situation.
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
People usually justify it by saying America is the great(est) evil. Pretty sure we could find some people on here who'd say that.
 
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There's a strong argument for it, but it's the actions that are evil. It's still evil if someone else pulls the same shit.
 
sufi

sufi

lala
It's a good article and definitely identifies a phenomenon but (not really being involved in left circles, whatever they may be) i don't see this tankie/campist tendency as very significant - if they exist they are not influential, any more than other left sub-cults like the SWP.

and secondly i think the phenomenon doesnt just affect the tankies - there are campists on the right, and the left, and the centre - there are anti-corbyn campists. The whole "never Trump" (or "never Corbyn") trends are campism in that they values tribal loyalty over the substance of politics, no?

Campism deserves it's own thread
 
sufi

sufi

lala
DannyL said:
People usually justify it by saying America is the great(est) evil. Pretty sure we could find some people on here who'd say that.
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who's that then? spill the beans!

I don't think youre correct tbh - and i think that's rather a simplistic pictue, but i also suspect that you got me on ignore @DannyL :(
as someone pointed out earlier - painting people you disagree with as extremists, radically opposed to your views is a big part of this problem - bigger in some senses that the problem itself imho
 
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sufi said:
and secondly i think the phenomenon doesnt just affect the tankies - there are campists on the right, and the left, and the centre - there are anti-corbyn campists. The whole "never Trump" (or "never Corbyn") trends are campism in that they values tribal loyalty over the substance of politics, no?
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Is this still campism, or is campism specifically to do with geopolitics and anti-imperialism and what you're talking about's just general tribalism?
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
sufi said:
who's that then? spill the beans!

I don't think youre correct tbh - and i think that's rather a simplistic pictue, but i also suspect that you got me on ignore @DannyL :(
as someone pointed out earlier - painting people you disagree with as extremists, radically opposed to your views is a big part of this problem - bigger in some senses that the problem itself imho
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I don't have anyone on ignore! I'm just not here all the time, kids, work etc. Luke would say that, Droid would've said I'm sure.
 
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