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i think she'd like me/ i dont mean sexually, necessarily, i think she'd like my personality and enjoy talking to me.
 
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Clinamenic said:
The academic mystification of social issues, largely as a result of the influence of continental philosophy, I think helped turn social progressivism into more of an upper-middle class project (at times an ostentatious one), and this I think intersected with class resentment due largely to the housing crisis, from what I understand.

By "the academic mystification of social issues" I mean the discourse pertaining to race, gender, sexuality, that was influenced by things like critical theory, marxism, psychoanalysis, deconstruction, etc. Very heady things that I, myself, appreciate to a large extent, but stuff that nonetheless registers as gibberish to almost everyone outside the university.
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Have you seen Kantbot going on about "French theory" just being a covert delivery system for injecting RAND Corporation Systems Analysis into humanities departments?
 
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Clinamenic said:
And yet, as Fanon described, the psycho-affective dimension of colonialism, or of a post-slavery economy like ours, can be a matter of nuance sometimes, in terms of identifying the problems and whatnot. The constant tension that is fueled by things like microaggressions, etc.

Similar to gender in that respect, it seems, in the sense that the little things really aren't that little, when felt from the inside, from the perspective of the conquered.
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They accumulate. Death by a thousand cuts, like what I was saying a while back about the friction that comes with poverty;

"This is something I feel isn't mentioned enough when it comes to poverty. People seem to feel you just have to go without a few things, but life is more or less the same. They don't see the pressure it exerts on everything you do. The friction. It's almost the opposite of dematerialisation. Your dishwasher doesn't work properly so you're back to washing things by hand. Your phone's cheap and the touchscreen's unresponsive. Your toilet paper's rougher and thinner. Your toothbrushes are worse, the bristles are too hard for your teeth and gums. An endless series of minor inconveniences which make everything that bit more draining."
 
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Clinamenic said:
No, I haven't. Does it make sense?
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I don't know enough about Rand Corporation Systems Analysis to know and he hasn't said a lot about it in the things I've seen, just tweeted about Lacan supposedly using terms from game theory and posted one of those iceberg conspiracy theory memes with it in one of the layers;

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They accumulate. Death by a thousand cuts, like what I was saying a while back about the friction that comes with poverty;

"This is something I feel isn't mentioned enough when it comes to poverty. People seem to feel you just have to go without a few things, but life is more or less the same. They don't see the pressure it exerts on everything you do. The friction. It's almost the opposite of dematerialisation. Your dishwasher doesn't work properly so you're back to washing things by hand. Your phone's cheap and the touchscreen's unresponsive. Your toilet paper's rougher and thinner. Your toothbrushes are worse, the bristles are too hard for your teeth and gums. An endless series of minor inconveniences which make everything that bit more draining."
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Also apparently the noise of your home environment is empirically understood as a major stressor, and factor to suboptimal mental health, i.e. if you are in a major housing complex next to a freeway or some such.
 
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Have you seen Kantbot going on about "French theory" just being a covert delivery system for injecting RAND Corporation Systems Analysis into humanities departments?
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The Pfeilstorch boys discovered this as well recently, that a bunch of Lacan and Derrida and Deleuze/Guattari is recycled (and somewhat degraded/perverted, if imaginatively) Bateson, von Neumann, Nash, Shannon.
 
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The Pfeilstorch boys discovered this as well recently, that a bunch of Lacan and Derrida and Deleuze/Guattari is recycled (and somewhat degraded/perverted, if imaginatively) Bateson, von Neumann, Nash, Shannon.
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The latter group of names here seems much more important.
 
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Clinamenic said:
The latter group of names here seems much more important.
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Yeah, and what I've realized lately is the 60s and 70s thinkers who humanized their mathy abstractions are probably equally important. Schelling, Goffman, Garfinkel. Still trying to figure out who their successors in 80s and 90s were.

Tho Bateson is Jungian and eccentric and humanist and insane, do you know anything about him? I'll try to post some excerpts in the morning. Acid head, hung out with dolphins, inspired RD Laing, worked with Alan Watts.
 
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