Corpsey

call me big papa
I guess it could be those two, in which case they've been pulling the wool over my eyes too AND THAT HURTS.

If it was Dominic Cummings that would be EVEN BETTER.
 

droid

Beast of Burden
I have my suspicions though I think its best not to dwell on it. There's been enough unnecessary drama here on here already.
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
"If Thirdform is blind how can the cunt read and write on here?

If Thirdform is blind how does the cunt know he's gay since he's doesn't know what men and women look like? Asking for Luka"

if you lot think i'd ever write something like that then you can fuck yourselves frankly.
 

Leo

Well-known member
I'd never suspect you wrote that. however, you are the guy who always goes on about how you see no taste boundaries for humor.
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
this constant projection of ulterior motives and underhand nastiness.

luke will tickle someone, they will overreact and suddenly these pronouncements of "you know full well what you were doing".

just because somebody enjoys making jokes, or open about there sexuality or enjoys a bit of tongue in cheek self-aggrandisement it doesn't make them a nasty person.
 

droid

Beast of Burden
Lets please not open this up again. There's no innocent party here. Everyone involved has come out smelling of shit. Further navel gazing isnt going to help.
 

catalog

Well-known member
Yeah sorry, that was a stupid thing for me to have written in this thread. Bad joke. I don't actually believe beagle is anyone but beagle ie I don't think it's another poster. Just very odd how they pop up at very specific times. That means it's someone who has to be reading all of the threads... But yeah, should not have brought it back up, apologies
 

luka

Well-known member
Lets please not open this up again. There's no innocent party here. Everyone involved has come out smelling of shit. Further navel gazing isnt going to help.

The problem with this attitude is that nothing ever gets talked through and properly dealt with.
 

luka

Well-known member
It's very easy to say they're all as bad as each other in a prim and haughty tone and then go back to discussing your favourite ever cover version. But it's ultimately an unhelpful attitude.
 

luka

Well-known member
but I'm not the boss. You lot will make up your own minds about what you want the place to be and how you want it to work.
 

luka

Well-known member
As Barty says we have people here who don't seem to be able to tell the difference between pure toxicity, focussed, vituperative, unrelenting abuse on the one hand and affectionate teasing on the other.
 

luka

Well-known member
Not being bad patty but your opinions and beliefs do get attacked by pretty much everyone on the forum not because of personal animosity but because you are so out of step with everyone else. I can see how that could make you feel targeted but I don't think that's what it is. I've been really trying really really hard to be nice to you over the last few months but it seems to have had the opposite effect to what I intended!
 

luka

Well-known member
Me and Barty do get massively frustrated cos we put huge amounts of effort and energy into making people feel involved and appreciated, we put massive work into getting the best out of people and trying to make it a fun classroom for everyone with good conversations and all the rest of it. It's a labour of love.

And I get that I rub some people up the wrong way. Some people rub me up the wrong way, there are certain base level personality clashes, essential differences of temperament and values that can't really be resolved but I don't go out of my way to be nasty.
 

pattycakes_

Well-known member
Actually I wasn't talking from personal experience. More just watching how the 'playful ribbing' goes down on here. There's a pecking order and it seems as though certain people are allowed to get away with certain things, and then others are dashed against the rocks for basically the same thing. It's like any other social microcosm really. All the stuff we're supposed to grow out of, as adults. You are definitely in the made men of dissensus section, and I think it's gone to your head a bit. And yeah you're right. I'm totally out of touch. I'm a fucking dunce when I compare myself to others on here way younger, but much wiser. The thing is even though those moments of hounding do hurt, and feel real, I do come away from them and think about what has been said and why, believe it or not. I want to evolve.
 

luka

Well-known member
Everr since droid blew up at this a couple of years ago we've been very conscious of not alienating people, not overdoing the jokes and that. We really have tried very hard to be good caregivers ever since that day and we regularly have conversations about it. Where we might have made misjudgements or crossed the line.
 
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