There aren't any traditional Labour voters anymore, and New Labour was the closest the Labour party ever came to admitting it.
Kill starmer peel his fucking face off destroy him liquidate his essence
Absolutely correct. Trad labour was fundamentally founded on the compact between the trade unions and the state. Given that less than 20% of the british workforce is unionised, and those who are mainly in higher paid public sector jobs.
I think their logic is that you can't politicise the dead during a disaster and they think it would play very badly to centrist masses if he tried to.
Politics is so shit
Jon, could you point out where Starmer said it's basically okay for cops to spy on people? Cos there's a lot of this from the Left of the party at the moment and it's classic bad faith. They're fucked off 'cos their messian is not in No. 10 and the confusion over abstention and voting against, and 2nd and 3rd reading is a classic splitting tactic (aimed at their base, not MPs I should add) . If only they were as good at winning elections as they are at inciting factional battles.
There's nothing Starmer can do to block the bill - as Ollie says, it'll become law anyway 'cos they've such a large majority. Starmer has the task of seeing if he can blunt the worst of it via amendments balanced with being denounced by the press and media as hating "our boys" and being in love with immigrants etc. I don't know how you square that circle and it's an unenviable position.
Well hang on, he did this loads last year - quizzing Johnson on everything he said, pointing out all the lies, the broken promises, all of that - and the response I saw from a lot of people on the left, including here, was "That's just Westminster politics, it's not relevant to the real world, what is he actually doing???"In other words, they are politicizing the dead, rather than doing their job, holding the government to account, and trying and get them to fix up.
You reckon? I left public sector because the money was shit (among other reasons).
Well organised unions like tfl's lot etc are pretty good at getting good money for their staff but unison & unite in public sector are mostly fucking awful these days. Been stripped to the bone and it's mostly hangers on from previous generation who are actually union reps etc
I am proving your point I guess. But public sector money is awful