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Labour open up four-point polling lead over the government:
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Labour surges to a four point poll lead over the Tories
A new Opinium survey puts Labour on 41 per cent and the Conservatives on 37 per cent, providing a significant boost to Sir Keir Starmer's leadership.
1) Nothing Starmer does will ever be good, ever, in the eyes of Corbyn supporters.
2) Leads in polling of under 5% can pretty much be ignored as random statistical fluctuation. What you're is sustained leads heading up to 10+ or more. I don't think he's achieved that yet?
3) As "Prime Minister material" in polling (I can't remember how they phrase it) he's streets ahead of the others atm. Personal popularity is fairly decent iirc. I don't know if this will translate into electoral gains.
2) Leads in polling of under 5% can pretty much be ignored as random statistical fluctuation. What you're is sustained leads heading up to 10+ or more. I don't think he's achieved that yet?
3) As "Prime Minister material" in polling (I can't remember how they phrase it) he's streets ahead of the others atm. Personal popularity is fairly decent iirc. I don't know if this will translate into electoral gains.
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Ha, like Corbyn, for instance?Any other leader would be 20 points ahead.
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"Because we believe in it, though, polling tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, particularly on social media – where each new poll is eagerly shared by supporters of whichever party appears to be surging this week. Like older forms of divination, the numbers give form to our desires and fears. They authorise our beliefs, legitimise our candidates and generate little waves of excitement. They allow us to blow attention bubbles around issues or parties, boosting the ratings further, and spawning yet another squee of excitement and feverish sharing of numbers. In moments of crisis, this can even allow small parties to game the system and generate attention and support as if from nowhere. If it weren’t for this, it is difficult to see how the Brexit party, a corporation with no members and a relatively small budget, could have won the European elections in May."Labour open up four-point polling lead over the government:
Labour surges to a four point poll lead over the Tories
A new Opinium survey puts Labour on 41 per cent and the Conservatives on 37 per cent, providing a significant boost to Sir Keir Starmer's leadership.
The polling industry doesn’t measure public opinion – it produces it | Richard Seymour
There is something authoritative and reassuring about a round number. But we shouldn’t pretend that a percentage can meaningfully represent the views of the public, says political activist and author Richard Seymour
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Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that an apparent 4% poll lead means Labour would definitely smash it if an election were to be held tomorrow. But even if the two main parties are polling about even, that's a damn sight different from Labour trailing by 22 points as it was just before Starmer took over, which is not in the noise.
maybe Corbyn wouldn't be any further ahead in the polls but Starmer should be trouncing them. Remember when this started and the Gov't was hoping for 20k deaths maximum and now we are over 100k? Because it seems Starmer doesn't and that's exactly the type of thing that should be getting hammered into the brain of every person eligible to vote - that this Gov't is literally getting away with murder and even if you agree with the ideology (ugh) the competency isn't there.
I'd be interested in seeing any commentary as to why this is so. I assume it's some kinda cynical focused group exercise - what resonates with the voters they're aiming for or whatever. When I say I'd be interested in seeing commentary, I mean thoughtful pieces, not STARMER RED TORY CUNT KILL HIM WANKER obvs. Seems odd to me.
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UK Labour Party hires former Israeli spy
Assaf Kaplan was in Israel's hacking outfit, Unit 8200.
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Dude.
Asa Winstanley found that out from looking at the dude's fucking LinkedIn profile. If he was an Israeli intelligence asset, do you think it would be announced to the world in this way.? The inference is that Starmer's Labour is in the pocket of Israel. I guess these people can't help themselves at this stage but it's yet more Jews behind the scenes, pulling secret strings fantasy fiction. Depressing.
Asa Winstanley found that out from looking at the dude's fucking LinkedIn profile. If he was an Israeli intelligence asset, do you think it would be announced to the world in this way.? The inference is that Starmer's Labour is in the pocket of Israel. I guess these people can't help themselves at this stage but it's yet more Jews behind the scenes, pulling secret strings fantasy fiction. Depressing.