john eden

male pale and stale
I mean, if you think the death penalty should be reinstated then speak up I guess. Bit weird but should keep the thread moving along.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
It’s just weird that Tea wants the death penalty reinstated in the Caribbean but not here? What’s that all about?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
No I assume he was being sarcastic when he said Sir Keir was a scumbag cos he approves of all those things KS has done. I haven't spoken to him or anything, that's just how I read it using my knowledge of how people talk these days.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Really? Oh sorry. I thought that JE genuinely thought that MT thought that the Caribbean should have the death penalty.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Well it would be good if Tea could clarify this, certainly. If it’s all internet japes then I guess that’s slightly more understandable.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I'm not that bothered about the honorifics - the legal stuff is more troubling though. As leader of the Labour Party the only thing he's done so far that I've really disliked is cede ground to Labour Friends of India on Kashmir and say it's a matter to be settled internationally, rather than sticking up for the people there. This means giving ground to Modi. My main objection to Corbyn was similar, the lack of critique of - and collusion with - authoritarian states - though the Kashmir issue is on a smaller scale thing so far and much less visible to Western commentators.

Am enjoying seeing him give Johnson a proper pasting though.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
With the legal stuff my main issues are him deciding that nobody be prosecuted for the deaths of Charles de Menezes and initially Ian Tomlinson.
Fine, that's a criticism of concrete things that he's done. I've got no problem with that and actually agree that they count against him. It's a bit different from slagging him off for receiving an award - which was not after all his own decision - for being good at his job and achieving some things that I'd have thought any reasonably progressive person would regard favourably.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Fine, that's a criticism of concrete things that he's done. I've got no problem with that and actually agree that they count against him. It's a bit different from slagging him off for receiving an award - which was not after all his own decision - for being good at his job and achieving some things that I'd have thought any reasonably progressive person would regard favourably.
People turn these things down all the time. He didn’t. He chose a side.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
People turn these things down all the time. He didn’t. He chose a side.
I guess symbolic things like this matter more to some people than to others. It doesn't particularly bother me but it may be a decision he ends up regretting if a sufficiently large number of people feel the way you do about it.
 
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