craner

Beast of Burden
There's no force or fervour there. He performs his tasks with the earnest diligence of a schoolboy. He works to counter the guilt of those booze sodden nights. In a cold sweat of shame and remorse. Gin on the breath. Pockets full of mints.
That's very shrewd, actually. All successful politicians are addicts in one way or another.
 

comelately

Wild Horses
Remain and Leave are code for a lot more than your position on EU membership these days, but yes.

Though tbf, the Torys have no real idea where they stand on quite a few issues thesedays.

Brexit is, after all, the great Kinder Bueno of politics.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I think he's doing a good job so far of not letting his opponents characterise him. Does lead to him seeing "oddly bloodless" as I heard him described recently, and I think there's a decent argument to be made that this is the wrong move in a national crisis. Being the Opposition leader is the hardest job in politics espcially with the flaming dumpster fire he inherited. The EHRC report has dropped and is being digested behind closed doors.
 

luka

Well-known member
Staff member
Danny thinks being labour leader is a stealth mission.

The single-mission counterpart to the Stealth-Based Game, where the player must sneak through an area infested with enemies. Getting detected may result in automatic failure and/or death or just mean being besieged by lots of guards. Being thrown in an easily escapable jail cell is also common. Frequently means dealing with guards that have no sense of peripheral vision (or hearing), so the player only has to avoid direct line of sight with them to slip past.

Sometimes the player will have to avoid searchlights that sweep about in a specific pattern. This is actually convenient for players since a visible stream of light is easier to detect and get around than a normally invisible line of sight from a Patrolling Mook. The guards may also be equipped with flashlights that give off a similar effect.
 

luka

Well-known member
Staff member
That's what my sister is like. She reckons Brown tricked the prison guards into letting him do wealth distribution by writing it in a secret code in his budgets so they didn't know what he was up to. All my new labour friends have this stealth mission view in fact.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
it's actually true if you look at what Blair did. Massive wealth redistribution only without going direct via taxation. That's one reason why there were so many supplementary schemes - Sure Start, EMA and so on.

I used to sign off EMA forms - £30 a week for 16-17 year olds for attendance in further education, for 60% of our pupils. I remember it well and its a marker of difference between New Lab and the Tories.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Remain and Leave are code for a lot more than your position on EU membership these days, but yes.
Yeah, I remember various articles a few years ago about how Brexit was never primarily about leaving the EU. Culture wars, the role of the state, our relationship to America, all sorts of stuff. Plus a thoroughly grubby get-rich(er)-quick scheme for a bunch of spivs, obviously.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
Brexit is the main front in the culture war, which the Tories are desperate to have as they have fuck all else. That's why Cummings was calling Starmer a "remainer lawyer"
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Brexit is the main front in the culture war, which the Tories are desperate to have as they have fuck all else. That's why Cummings was calling Starmer a "remainer lawyer"
Yeah, it's a term that's taken on the sense of "quisling" or "traitor". Or "bourgeois" to a Leninist. Heretic. Infidel.
 
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