thirdform

Well-known member
There was a tory council in Liverpool in the very early seventies, quite easy to dig out. It's been a "left" city with a couple of anomalies for most of the last century though.

As Craner said- sorry for paraphrasing- the NIP are trying to coerce a conceptual divide here without really understanding the nuances I think.

I know all of this. One can still be proudly left wing and proudly British though.
 

thirdform

Well-known member
True, but all of them revolve around uncircumcised penises, bacon and a queen who isn't even English but descended from the House of Stuart. Which is precisely why I would laugh if Scotland became independent, because the house of Windsor would plunge into crisis - the best of times! So that's @Mr. Tea 's question answered as well.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Staff member
True, but all of them revolve around uncircumcised penises, bacon and a queen who isn't even English but descended from the House of Stuart. Which is precisely why I would laugh if Scotland became independent, because the house of Windsor would plunge into crisis - the best of times!
Don't forget the baked beans!
 

thirdform

Well-known member
Don't forget the baked beans!

Oh yeah. my boy promised me never to have that abomination in the house when I'm about. The Irish can be relied upon to be gentlemanly, a far more nobler people than the various Britishes ever could be.
 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
It looks like the NIP are going to try the ludicrous SNP trick of claiming that Northerners are nicer people than those horrible South Easterners who have contrived to oppress them and ruin their lives with their Tory party.

Disgusting, rancid, illiterate, parochial, hypocritical, toxic, cynical positioning, in other words.
This is it, isn't it. Nationalist movements come down to the same core principles: dividing people into an Us and a Them, and then telling people on the Us to view the Them as different.
 

WashYourHands

Well-known member
@n—oneinparticular Britain has regional identities, which doesn’t equate to meaning they all need devolved govts. This is why we have civic councils

On the flip Mark Drakeford has impressed (public health background during a pandemic helps), while the SNP......words fail and the DUP only went back to Stormont due to Brexit fallout, hapless cunts

Keir Starmer = nowhere man and his voice is irksome
 

Martin D

Well-known member
He's such a Tory, he won't last but the main problem is no one can tell you what Labour stand for these days.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Staff member
It's funny, I don't think I've seen a single hand-wringing article asking what the Conservatives stand for these days.
 
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