Intuitionist Maths might help reconcile quantum physics and relativity

Mr. Tea

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@Clinamenic Re. negative mass - no, I know very little about it, but tbh I don't think anyone knows that much about it.

Some theorists believe particles of antimatter have negative mass, although I believe the great majority believe it has ordinary, positive mass, just like ordinary matter. In principle, this ought to be extremely easy to test whether antimatter has positive or negative mass: 'just' make some anti-atoms, put them in a vacuum in the absence of any other forces, and see whether they fall or rise.

But that's a lot easier said than done, since anti-atoms have to kept in a 'trap' consisting of a set of interacting electric and magnetic fields in order to keep them away from the sides of the vacuum vessel they're in (since they'd instantly mutually annihilate if they came into contact with the walls of the vessel), and these forces will be many orders of magnitude than the extremely feeble gravitational force acting on the atoms (their weight, in other words). So trying to 'weigh' a few hundred atoms is an extremely tricky proposition.
 
Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
A telling response...
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It's a crock of shit, though. What does this clown think the LEP and Tevatron colliders were built to do, if not to investigate the "residue" produced when particles and antiparticles collide?

I'm by now very familiar with you posting flat-earthery of this sort, but this is embarrassing even by your usual standards.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
It's a crock of shit, though. What does this clown think the LEP and Tevatron colliders were built to do, if not to investigate the "residue" produced when particles and antiparticles collide?

I'm by now very familiar with you posting flat-earthery of this sort, but this is embarrassing even by your usual standards.
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Have you ever heard of paradigm shifts?

You would have been right at the front of the crowd throwing mud pies at Copernicus.
 
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"Anti-matter is not some spooky force arrayed against matter, it is simply another form of matter. Most simply, it is matter upside-down." (italics mine) - don't see how this could be any clearer @Mr. Tea

Perhaps they should convert their machine to a topsy-turvatron and then they would make some headway
 
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Mr. Tea said:
It's a crock of shit, though. What does this clown think the LEP and Tevatron colliders were built to do, if not to investigate the "residue" produced when particles and antiparticles collide?

I'm by now very familiar with you posting flat-earthery of this sort, but this is embarrassing even by your usual standards.
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btw you totally misread the line on residue as he sez not that they weren't built to investigate residue nor fail to do so in every instance, but that they can only detect certain kinds of residue: "Our experiments only show that when matter and anti-matter collide, our machines cannot detect any residue. However, since our machines are measuring E/M residue, it is possible that both the matter and anti-matter have simply stopped acting in a detectable manner. " (slanty letters mine)
 
Mr. Tea

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mixed_biscuits said:
Have you ever heard of paradigm shifts?
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I've read Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, if that's what you mean.

But again, we have no evidence or indication of that. We are told that the basic precepts of Relativity and Quantum Mechanics imply this, but they don't. They only imply symmetries and conservation laws. We also have no evidence or data showing that matter and anti-matter annihilate one another. Our experiments only show that when matter and anti-matter collide, our machines cannot detect any residue. However, since our machines are measuring E/M residue, it is possible that both the matter and anti-matter have simply stopped acting in a detectable manner. This is what I have proposed, and it is not a far-out proposal in any way. For instance, if E/M detection is ultimately a matter of spins or angular momenta, then both matter and anti-matter could become undetectable simply by losing all spins. In this way, colliding anti-matter and matter cancel spins, which greatly reduces energies, and completely reduces detection in a magnetic field.
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There is a fundamental error of understanding in literally every sentence here.

This is about as embarrassing as the time @HMGovt tried to get me to read a "paper" on some "physics" "research" that was actually a piece of creative writing by a dietician that used the word quantum a lot.
 
Mr. Tea

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I mean never mind whether it's correct or not, he contradicts himself from one sentence to the next:

Our experiments only show that when matter and anti-matter collide, our machines cannot detect any residue. However, since our machines are measuring E/M residue...
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Mr. Tea

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This is absolutely classic "voice from the wilderness" Dunning-Kruger guff. I mean, literal Time Cube levels of delusion.
 
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Mr. Tea said:
I mean never mind whether it's correct or not, he contradicts himself from one sentence to the next:
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Reading comprehension fail: in other words, "Our machines don't detect any residue in that instance but they're only capable of detecting a certain kind of residue, so that doesn't preclude other kinds of residue."

Dunno why you have to resort to the dark arts to bolster a point of view you consider to be unassailable
 
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