luka

Well-known member
He's not gone gone is he? I like him. Smart, good taste, cared and put effort in

it's easy to get him back we just have to start having interesting energised conversations. then the place becomes irresistable. if its low energy then no one gets sucked into the vortex. like you say the crucial thing is people that care and make an effort. you get out what you put in like your primary school teacher told you
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
This place has a boom-bust cycle going on.

Right now we're at the foot of another glorious peak — at the top of which is an unexploded nuke.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The English "provocateur" guy with a Greek name who went round giving talks at US unis to piss people off and wrote a shit book.... he basically got cancelled by the right when he said paedophilia was ok didn't he? Basically that was the end of him as any kind of cultural force as far as I could tell.
 

luka

Well-known member
it was the pedo thing that got him though wasnt it? cos that is what cost him his wealthy backers. a lot of these characters are really just toy soldiers with big money behind them
 

droid

Well-known member
He was screwed before that as he lost a shitload of money cos colleges kept cancelling his speaking engagements due to protests. The pedo thing was him ramping up the provocation to try and get more attention and it backfired.
 

version

Well-known member
I think some of them were looking for a way to ditch him anyway as they were never really comfortable being associated with a gay Jewish guy.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
He got kicked off twitter and so on didn't he and now he's been online moaning about how he can't make enough money to keep him in champagne and so on... I can't get too upset about it. Even if he IS the victim of prejudice I don't feel too bad cos he's done so much to stir that up.
Someone who was on dissensus used to work for him ages ago... before he became famous I guess. Said he wasn't too bad as a boss or even as a person for what that's worth.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
So it's kinda like when Will Self said that he thought that if he became a junkie like William Burroughs then he would be an author like him... but then he discovered he was just a junkie without any books (albeit he managed to change that later I guess). Milo now discovering that he's just a cunt with no books (maybe his thing came out in the end on some vanity publisher or something I dunno).
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
He got kicked off twitter and so on didn't he and now he's been online moaning about how he can't make enough money to keep him in champagne and so on... I can't get too upset about it. Even if he IS the victim of prejudice I don't feel too bad cos he's done so much to stir that up.
Someone who was on dissensus used to work for him ages ago... before he became famous I guess. Said he wasn't too bad as a boss or even as a person for what that's worth.
I can't remember anyone here working with him but someone here went to school with him, I think?
 

chava

Well-known member
Jordan Peterson dug him out last year to basically do a Youtube psychoanalysis. Pretty interesting if you can stomach it

 

john eden

male pale and stale
Is this still the cancellation thread?
Can we develop some strategies to delete a few of the bothersome bigots in public life?
I wanted us to analyse effective cancellations, work out the ingredients for a successful campaign and then get to work - the time is very ripe, like a smelly cheese

I think focussing on individuals like that is not the way to go. It can be fun and maybe that is the problem. We shouldn’t let these people off the hook, but removing the odd bigot from public life is only good for clicks unless the systematic bigotry that gave them their platform is also attacked.

There is a machine somewhere in a factory that produces these people for the public’s adoration and hate. They ride the gravy train until the last possible moment. There will be another one along in a minute.

Looking at the latest shiny outrage and focussing on the lips that say it or the fingers that type it ignores the machine, the factory.
 

luka

Well-known member
that's a good point. vitriol gets aimed at the individual grifter while often the platform and the paymaster escapes attention. let alone the factory considered in the wider sense.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Sure, he was being funded (or at least having money funnelled to him) by Bannon at one point, I guess Koch brothers ultimately. These people are the real poison. But... on the other hand, he's a vicious arsehole so the fun aspect you mentioned above should not be ignored.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Oh yeah could be right. I read a big article about it all once. Basically Milo's job was to walk a tightrope where he wrote and published the most provocative stuff that he could while at the same time cutting out the stuff that actually literally called for lynching black people or burning Jews or whatever. Cos a lot of the people in that world were literally too dumb to understand that some things they couldn't get away with. The fact that he understands it miles better than most of them and yet fucked himself up by coming out in favour of a bit of harmless paedophilia every now and again speaks volumes...
 
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