Lockdown vs. Music

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/quarantine-diy-music-rennaissance-988394/

Apogee, which makes music-creation accessories including popular iOS and Mac products like HypeMic, just experienced its most active month ever. Roland, a popular manufacturer of electronic and digital musical instruments, equipment, and software, has seen a spike as well. Splice, which sells royalty-free samples, loops, and preset for producers, has seen more than one million sound downloads a day, the company tells Rolling Stone.

Instrument/gear seller Reverb is seeing success during this period with both new and used musical instruments — with buyers and sellers that range from large brands and local music shops to individual players and famous artists.

“We are seeing extraordinarily high order volumes, outpacing even the amount of orders we see during the busy holiday season,” says Jim Tuerk, the company’s director of business development. “Several of the music shops that sell gear on Reverb have even told us that March was one of their best months ever… Compared to this time last year, searches for music gear are up nearly 50%, with several categories — like ukuleles, MIDI [Musical Instrument Digital Interface] keyboards, and drum machines — seeing search spikes of 100% or more when compared to this time last year.”

Music retailer Sweetwater has also seen a significant uptick in content and product sales from its website. Sweetwater CEO Chuck Surack tells Rolling Stone that the previous seven days were bigger than the week they had after Thanksgiving last year. Sweetwater is getting 500,000 visitors a day — around double what they’d normally see — and they’re shipping about 15-20,000 orders every day, he says.
 

woops

is not like other people
Perhaps a taste of what people would do if UBI came into play and work was no longer as essential?

what, spend loads of money on music electronics? nice utopian vision but does not chime with my noughties dole experience
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I don't think it's about being unemployed it's about being stuck in your house. (Although I guess that does happen to unemployed people too.) Actually it's also probably about having disposable income that you'd usually be spending on travel and going out to pubs and clubs.
 

woops

is not like other people
for now yes but UBI would be unlikely to finance many ribbon mics for your ukelele. so it's back to the demo version of fruity loops. the best grime records were made on playstation after all
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
What with infections rising again in countries that have eased lockdown, makes me think (or is it concede) that we could be in a state of lockdown for a long time.

That means clubs closed for ages, probably a lot that will go out of business. It makes me wonder what effect that might have on what music people make.

Perhaps the effect will be negligible, which means it may be more "fun" to ask - what would happen to music if lockdown NEVER lifted?
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
This would probably be a time of great creativity if we weren't all stuffing ourselves with streamable media.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Perhaps a taste of what people would do if UBI came into play and work was no longer as essential?

thats not what ubi is. Ubi doesn't demarketise the essentials of life, I.E: food, public services, housing etc. It's an evil to keep capitalism going relative to its material limit in ratio to the labour it expells which it cannot reabsorb.
 
This would probably be a time of great creativity if we weren't all stuffing ourselves with streamable media.

The kids who should be inventing new musics to impress girls and boys are spending ALL THEIR WAKING HOURS on Xbox instead.

I saw the best minds of their generation destroyed by the likes of Fortnite & Travis Scott's Astronomical Event

Left twitching in their beanbags, wanked out husks
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Not at all. Vestigial mental organs that (in a time all of us have forgotten) bestowed the ability to create rather than consume will grow back.
Kill the Internet, send it down with all souls, down to the very bones of the ocean.


you're just an old fart. any creativity is not going to impress you without a culture. except culture has been domesticated. you'll still get the same problem with no internet. isolated localism with no cultural impact.
 

catalog

Well-known member
I suppose you could argue that what I'm saying (and I guess hmgovt) is reactionary or retrogressive or whatever, backwards looking, to something that we can't really go back to. I'm not saying as a permanent thing, just a few weeks, enforced. Pandemic has shown us change can come fairly quick.

But in a bigger point, I used to think that what mckenna and to a certain extent chatwin said was right. Chatwin says, in songlines, that the future is back to nomadism, small groups wandering. Mckenna says its either this, or we go into space. And Burroughs says this, out objectives as humans on this planet is to use it all up, evolve into space.

But recently I've been reading urbanomic and this spinal catastrophism book and heard about this thing called fermats paradox (think that's the guy, maybe not) where they are talking about how, given all we know about life and the universe, there should be the odd other advanced form of life somewhere in our solar system, but we can't find one. Which is odd. So the thinking is that advanced civilisations collapse under their own weight, cos they get their wants and needs all fucked up (as they can create the reality they desire, they move further from the reality they need).

So a period of checking, just simple checking, stopping, have a look, that's what we need.
 

catalog

Well-known member
The kids who should be inventing new musics to impress girls and boys are spending ALL THEIR WAKING HOURS on Xbox instead.

I saw the best minds of their generation destroyed by the likes of Fortnite & Travis Scott's Astronomical Event

Left twitching in their beanbags, wanked out husks

Wanked out husks good line.

My mate who has kids has a real problem with his eldest kid on fortnite, they've had to read up on it cis it's so inmersive, this 11 year old is basically suffering a comedown after it. I do think what we've created on our screens is bad for us in high amounts but I also instinctively think third is perhaps right and we can't go back either.
 
you're just an old fart. any creativity is not going to impress you without a culture. except culture has been domesticated. you'll still get the same problem with no internet. isolated localism with no cultural impact.

This is the inevitable endpoint of isolated localism though

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This is what your beige conformity has taken away from us
 
I suppose you could argue that what I'm saying (and I guess hmgovt) is reactionary or retrogressive or whatever, backwards looking, to something that we can't really go back to. I'm not saying as a permanent thing, just a few weeks, enforced. Pandemic has shown us change can come fairly quick.

But in a bigger point, I used to think that what mckenna and to a certain extent chatwin said was right. Chatwin says, in songlines, that the future is back to nomadism, small groups wandering. Mckenna says its either this, or we go into space. And Burroughs says this, out objectives as humans on this planet is to use it all up, evolve into space.

But recently I've been reading urbanomic and this spinal catastrophism book and heard about this thing called fermats paradox (think that's the guy, maybe not) where they are talking about how, given all we know about life and the universe, there should be the odd other advanced form of life somewhere in our solar system, but we can't find one. Which is odd. So the thinking is that advanced civilisations collapse under their own weight, cos they get their wants and needs all fucked up (as they can create the reality they desire, they move further from the reality they need).

So a period of checking, just simple checking, stopping, have a look, that's what we need.

Fermi Paradox, but there's the Dark Forest solution to it. Civilisations learn not to broadcast their existence because of what may be out there, specifically other more advanced predatory civilisations.
 
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