luka

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The sacred religious artefact of black art form techno which must never be appraised or criticised but merely revered, prefably in some kind of church or chapel
 

Simon silverdollarcircle

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I'm not on Twitter so I haven't seen any of that, but (vaguely related) point, one of the interesting things about Energy Flash is how partisan and subjective it is. like it sort of masquerades as a history of dance music, but really it's the construction of a very particular aesthetic argument / ideology

Like I remember it's very dismissive of new York house, strictly rhythm and nu groove covered in a paragraph or so

But in being so one sided and not really attempting to be a "fair" overview of the history is what makes it so readable and influential
 

luka

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Exactly, you can't divorce it from its context. I keep saying, this stuff functioned as a desperately needed intervention into the debate.
 

craner

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Luke hates gays because he's scared of them, I'm Patrick Bateman and now Reynolds is racist. The whole forum will be cancelled at this rate.
 

subvert47

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the music is dire. some of the worst music ever made in my opinion. but the book is great.
original post punk is terrific, some of the best music ever made in my opinion ;) – but I agree that it's a great book
 

luka

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Prole scum music was not considered in the same way as pure black art form techno
 

chava

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But in being so one sided and not really attempting to be a "fair" overview of the history is what makes it so readable and influential
The only critique worth reading and engaging with is the highly subjective idiosyncratic approach.

All those canonized histories and origin stories are so tiresome.
 

Benny B

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Lol This fierce brosnan guy is pipecock, aka the resident opiniated techno purist of ilx of yore and almost universally regarded as a total prick. This is just a pathetic attempt at starting a purely self-gratifying twitter pile on.
My god the stuff you could dig up that he's said on ilx if you wanted. He should be more careful
 

Benny B

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It just made me laugh. I used to read ilx a fair bit and it seemed like he was one of those guys who everybody hated and took the piss out of all the time, yet still they carry on going there. Theres quite a few characters like that over there.
 

luka

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There are you're right. They're much more likely to form a pack and ostracise people. dissensus won't mob, for better or for worse.
 

luka

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Sometimes I think it would be a useful defensive strategy if we did but all in all I'm glad we don't
 

Benny B

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she can sing whatever the fuck she wants as long as she takes all her clothes off. goddamn is she banging.

pipecock, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
 
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