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luka

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mvuent

Void Dweller

this looks interesting. thought for a while that it's weird no one's written a straightforward history of idm. you'd just open with the observation that even though everyone brags about how much they hate the term it's stuck around for 30 years, then start talking about the latin rascals, etc. i follow some accountant on twitter who claims to be writing a book called "generation aphex" but idk if it's gonna happen. anyways i'm sure this book is very different from that but i'm intrigued by how blissblogger says even devotees will be amazed.
 

blissblogger

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this looks interesting. thought for a while that it's weird no one's written a straightforward history of idm. you'd just open with the observation that even though everyone brags about how much they hate the term it's stuck around for 30 years, then start talking about the latin rascals, etc. i follow some accountant on twitter who claims to be writing a book called "generation aphex" but idk if it's gonna happen. anyways i'm sure this book is very different from that but i'm intrigued by how blissblogger says even devotees will be amazed.

It couldn't be further from straightforward. I was reading it in a surprisingly good AI translation - I could actually understand it, even enjoy the style of the writing to some extent. Every so often there'd be a word translated by some recondite English archaism, but very far from the usual internet-translator gobbledygook. I hope it gets translated properly and published in the Anglophonic world.
 

mvuent

Void Dweller
It couldn't be further from straightforward. I was reading it in a surprisingly good AI translation - I could actually understand it, even enjoy the style of the writing to some extent. Every so often there'd be a word translated by some recondite English archaism, but very far from the usual internet-translator gobbledygook. I hope it gets translated properly and published in the Anglophonic world.
makes sense, i'd assume an artsy italian book with a latin title and blank white cover would be a bit confusing in places... but just in case it doesn't get translated, any specific contentions you found especially memorable? like one that was really smart, or really weird, etc.
 

blissblogger

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it's a bit hard to summarize or even crystallize, but essentially he's arguing for IDM in its original Brit Trinity (aphex, autechre, BoC) as prophesying our present way of life, at the mercy of algorhythms, our selves completely porous for the invasion of telemetric streams of data. Each artist's music manifests a different aspect, or stage, of this process
 

woops

is not like other people

this looks interesting. thought for a while that it's weird no one's written a straightforward history of idm. you'd just open with the observation that even though everyone brags about how much they hate the term it's stuck around for 30 years, then start talking about the latin rascals, etc. i follow some accountant on twitter who claims to be writing a book called "generation aphex" but idk if it's gonna happen. anyways i'm sure this book is very different from that but i'm intrigued by how blissblogger says even devotees will be amazed.
we were all just saying how you're destined to be a famous music writer @mvuent
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Really enjoyed reading this, lots of good personal anecdotage and nifty inversions/plays on words e.g. "commodified the explosion", "inimitable and irresistible to imitate".

I just wish it had been longer and allowed for more discussion of punk's place in today's world -- the idea that offence is now what the Right does, for example.

It's ironic, too, and presumably again cos of space limitations that after saying the author of McClarens biography only glancingly describes "Anarchy in the UK" that Simon (who we all know can describe the fuck out of music) only has space to glancingly describe it's "sound storm". But then, perhaps there's not all that much to describe when it comes to the Pistols?

I must say all the situationist stuff about the boredom of modern life still resonates with me. What I found particularly interesting about McClaren as Simon writes about him is as a figure who wanted to rebel but slowly but surely was completely absorbed into the establishment (and perhaps always wanted to be there).

I personally feel this is what's happened to me. Not that I was ever a rebel, but you know - the job, the rent or mortgage, the nice TV and all that. And all the while the thrilling intensity of life disappearing into the rearview mirror.
 

luka

Well-known member
Like everything published in that thing it was far too long but I did get to the end and I enjoyed it.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Also made me wonder where that punk spirit is in music nowadays. Not a political ideology more the spirit of petty vandalism and spitting that Simon talks about the Sex Pistols embodying. I'd presume it's in autotune rap music maybe? (I keep thinking about how hip-hop is now so old that it's probably followed rock n rolls trajectory – so that the once revered 90s stuff is seen as boring old man music – or perhaps it's even gone so far around, or is set to, that the boring old man music will become cool again...)
 

sufi

lala
Also made me wonder where that punk spirit is in music nowadays. Not a political ideology more the spirit of petty vandalism and spitting that Simon talks about the Sex Pistols embodying. I'd presume it's in autotune rap music maybe? (I keep thinking about how hip-hop is now so old that it's probably followed rock n rolls trajectory – so that the once revered 90s stuff is seen as boring old man music – or perhaps it's even gone so far around, or is set to, that the boring old man music will become cool again...)
Well simon says that Punk's dead and better off buried back in the 20thC

I was thinking that could be a good thread.,
but i think we discussed already about how music doesnt have the same meaning for young folk's lifestyles as it did back in the day?
 
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