sus

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Good episode. I came across Robert Pogue Harrison via this book on forests he wrote—Sexual Personae meets John Berger. He's got a bit of the Boomer thing of thinking he's unique ("Where else will can you find Heidegger and Jim Morrison uttered in the same sentence but my podcast?" = I've-never-used-Twitter's-search-function) but I'm willing to let him slide for being older than the Internet.
 

sus

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I can try to summarize his takes (Morrison's god was Apollo, not Dionysus; Morrison was a cool mofo who knew how to keep from overheating) but it's not quite as interesting as getting it from the guy himself
 

sus

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Also Kerouac - an utterly vile writer, the peak dwelling on the existential purpose of life, everything conformist and conservative I despise in literature condensed and sold as revolutionary.
I think I'm also inclined to have these feelings about the Beats, many of the hippies, etc—but then I go and hear a top-notch Italian lit scholar talk about the visionary Apollonianism of Morrison, or hear a really informed avant-garde historian talk the incredible influence and innovation of Kerouac, and I wonder to myself whether I don't actually know what the hell I'm talking about—and even if I did, what's the comparative value of a glass half full vs a glass half empty stance?
 

thirdform

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I think I'm also inclined to have these feelings about the Beats, many of the hippies, etc—but then I go and hear a top-notch Italian lit scholar talk about the visionary Apollonianism of Morrison, or hear a really informed avant-garde historian talk the incredible influence and innovation of Kerouac, and I wonder to myself whether I don't actually know what the hell I'm talking about—and even if I did, what's the comparative value of a glass half full vs a glass half empty stance?

can get the glass half full from modernism. what's more it half fills as it empties. real entanglement hours.
 

luka

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I think I'm also inclined to have these feelings about the Beats, many of the hippies, etc—but then I go and hear a top-notch Italian lit scholar talk about the visionary Apollonianism of Morrison, or hear a really informed avant-garde historian talk the incredible influence and innovation of Kerouac, and I wonder to myself whether I don't actually know what the hell I'm talking about—and even if I did, what's the comparative value of a glass half full vs a glass half empty stance?
third has no interest in literature he considers it bourgeious distraction
 

luka

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i don't really understand it tbh. i follow this twitter account but ive never quite got my head around it.
 

Leo

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a good conspiracy theory is like a good pop song: an interesting ear worm/brain worm, creative yet familiar enough, an easy to follow hook to latch on to.

Paul McCartney would concoct great conspiracy theories. Guess that means @Bad Faith Healer could compose great pop tunes.
 
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