Are political events and large-scale disasters now the only form of collective experience?

[luka]

You have to look at the roles being played too though. There are loads of people who aren't white in 80s action films, but they frequently seem to be stereotyped as gangsters and terrorists.

Same with today as far as I can see

 

[luka]

Like eg Spider-Man has an Asian co star but he's a fat nerd

 

[luka]

I dont think anything much has changed except BlackPanther represented a new thing probably

 

[version]

Same with today as far as I can see

Not quite. We were talking about Fast and Furious just the other day. They made basically every main cast member an action hero.

 

[luka]

Yes that's an exception I agree

 

[linebaugh]

fast and furious is probably a special case as it was originally marketed towards minorities before its trans cultural explosion

 

[linebaugh]

TI's character in ant man is hilariously dated

 

[linebaugh]

but I generally agree with version on this one

 

[luka]

but I generally agree with version on this one

That's cos your both young you dont have enough data to draw from

 

[version]

That's cos your both young you dont have enough data to draw from

You missed the 80s despite living through them. You have no data.

 

[linebaugh]

any time we have these conversations I always have to google 'movies' as I know fuck all about whats being released right now

 

[luka]

You missed the 80s despite living through them. You have no data.

That's incorrect because I just watched the whole eighties last week

 

[linebaugh]

The marvel movies are a good case study as while theyre diverse the lead will always be a white guy, unless the movie is trying to make some political point about the lead not being white guy

 

[luka]

This correct that's what I'm saying version is totally wrong as usual

 

[luka]

Is this Avon Barksdale from the Wire in ant man

 

[linebaugh]

true but its not impossible, re: the fast and furious franchise

 

[version]

Is this Avon Barksdale from the Wire in ant man

Yeah, Wood Harris. He's in Dredd too. Have you seen that? You'd probably like it.

 

[luka]

I have seen it it's not bad but it's not a Dredd film

 

[version]

Why not?

 

[luka]

Cos megacity one is not the main character they don't even bother trying to depict it a little bit