boxedjoy

Well-known member
This is all great and theoretical but let's not pretend that the BBC, in real terms, is doing this for any reason other than to appease a certain type of audience member. The kind of person who thinks "black people" is a debate subject and poppies should be mandatory but buys into the myth of virtue-signalling.
 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
The idea might be to be neutral, but neutral is an enemy of positive action as it allows people to stand back and do nothing as the negative happens.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Yeah that was the point I was trying to make earlier, that opting for neutrality regarding a lopsided status quo indicates complicity with said lopsidedness.
 

vimothy

yurp
neutrality is the ruling contradiction of contemporary liberalism - you should be free to answer the "big questions" for yourself, but this idea is highly idiosyncratic in historical terms and anything but neutral and in practice comes loaded with substantive assumptions about what the correct answers are
 

woops

is not like other people
can you expand here?
if i'm understanding this right then you can take christianity as an example for most of the people here. if you're anything like me then you don't spend all day and night worrying over whether you'll make it to heaven. you'll only do that at your least guarded moments, if ever. and so you think that you can look at the question of whether you'll get to heaven like richard dawkins and think what a silly idea, there is no heaven, it's just a preposterous fairy tale. however it may not be so simple to do away with two thousand years of culture, whatever atari teenage riot say.
 

woops

is not like other people
what are the big questions?
i'm glad you 🤣 but i think wittgenstein reckoned the history of philosophy mostly consisted of asking the wrong questions and he was much cleverer than me. he was also into jokes and thought you could write a book of philosophy in joke form. based on the few lines of his i've actually read though i don't think he tried it himself
 

linebaugh

Well-known member
I think the big questions are supposed to be race, religion, governance, gender etc, and that our opinions on said big questions should have no weight in our general activity- work, education and etc- is where we depart from historical precedence.
 

vimothy

yurp
the big questions might include: what are the big questions, what is the meaning of life, towards what should man be oriented, what is the common good and even does such a good exist, how should man live, do I have to do what my parents tell me etc etc
 

vimothy

yurp
you are free, under the liberal ideal, to decide what your life means. you are, in that sense, your own author. it's not simply that no one is going to tell you what to do, but that the whole ethical framework that determines your actions is up for grabs
 
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