The Culture War

john eden

male pale and stale
how widespread is this? more than just the example mentioned?
The Conservatives are going in pretty hard on this at the moment Leo. There has been similar stuff at the BBC and museums generally have been warned off removing problematic statues. Here is a local example:


The new proposed policing bill also includes increased prison sentences for people who vandalise statues.

Also the govt’s own commission on racism has recommended that teaching about our colonial past must include the “good” bits. For balance.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
But at the same time, where I live there are some really good and sensitive conversations happening about all this:

 

john eden

male pale and stale
I suspect this will lead to some conflict between local Labour run councils vs the tabloids and Conservative government - exactly like in the 1980s.

For the Tories this is a great distraction from economic carnage and their own corruption of course.
 

sufi

lala
Was there a thread on 'performative wokeness'? Cos maybe that's where that belongs
that was the woke capitalism thread, which started out as a criticism of "woke-washing" and ended up as a reactionary pile-on against woke white women iirc

although at some level all the trhreads are about prefrmative wokeness, at least the ones i've posted on
 
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I worry this sort of thing's happening on a greater scale than we realise. There must be plenty of smaller organisations without the visibility of the National Trust where these people are trying to force their way in.
 

Slothrop

Tight but Polite
I think I've said this before, but I keep feeling like these people are doing a 2+2=5 thing at the moment, like they're constantly blasting people with deliberately inconsistent positions as some sort of brainwashing technique. Free speech is important, you can't just ban opinions that you don't like hearing, oh but please don't talk about slavery and colonial genocide because that's upsetting.
 

sufi

lala
I worry this sort of thing's happening on a greater scale than we realise. There must be plenty of smaller organisations without the visibility of the National Trust where these people are trying to force their way in.
I think it's a lot worse than that actually, small orgs are getting taken over by people who implement these same nasty initiatives but are well meaning and misguided - all these charities with white management who think they are changing the world in the right direction but are actually imposing hateful authoritarian management on their own workers
 
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