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I've come to see my lack of self discipline as my biggest problem. There are all sorts of other problems, but I think a lot of them either stem from lack of self discipline or survive and flourish because of it.
You could probably present skipping meals and staying up all night to play Call of Duty as "discipline". If you replaced CoD with building a website or something then people would call you dedicated.
 

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i keep telling you music is part of the problem now. music is cancelled. fuck music. music age is over.
You can see this in action on Dissensus when you look at the activity in the respective subforums. Thought, Politics, Art, Literature & Film, Nature and Miscellaneous are thriving, Music and Technology are stagnant.
 

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This has jogged my memory and I now realise this is a recurring feature in dreams I have. Probably it's the same for everybody. Suddenly being stripped of all clothes, having to get home.
This happened to my mate in NYC. He was there for an interview, went out the night before and woke up in the street in just his pants. Apparently what had happened was he got shitfaced in a bar, went home with some bloke he met then at some point during the night staggered out of the guy's apartment and fell asleep in the street.

Another recurring dream I have (though not often) is my arse being full of absolutely granite solid shit, and having to tear it out of my arsehole with my bare hands.

That's normal, though, right?
And this. I watched an interview with a former pro skater called Jeremy Klein who talked about being on a skate trip with Tony Hawk and a bunch of the other guys on Birdhouse where he ate nothing but sweets until he became so constipated and his shit got so rock hard he ended up having to dig it out with the handle of his toothbrush.
 

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You could probably present skipping meals and staying up all night to play Call of Duty as "discipline". If you replaced CoD with building a website or something then people would call you dedicated.
I guess what self discipline is about is being willing to do things that aren't enjoyable immediately to obtain some later gratification.

Building a website would probably be awful but you're either going to feel a sense of achievement when you've done it or you're going to get paid.

Call of Duty is more enjoyable than eating - at that moment. I'm not postponing any gratification really.
 

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True, but some people love exercising and going to the gym yet it's still viewed as disciplined and hard work.
 

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A genuine "life hack" is cooking less pasta than you think you need. You always end up with too much otherwise.
 

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A genuine "life hack" is cooking less pasta than you think you need. You always end up with too much otherwise.

but cook twice as much as you need and you can fry the rest tomorrow. and its nice fried.
 

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not that there isnt a history of left wing self improvement. it just seems to have died a bit. coal miners reading das kapital in a public library
There's this book called The True Believer from the 50s by Eric Hoffer, social psychologist i think, where he theorizes that people who join mass movements yearn for re-birth, not self-improvement.

This book is short and full of aphorisms about the nature of people who join mass movements. He just pulls them out of his ass, it's incredibly provocative, but some of them just ring true.

Some interesting anecdotes about pre-war Germany how communist and nazi leaders poked each other's ranks for possible recruits but both saw the petit bourgeoursies social democrats as impossible to seduce.
 

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I guess what self discipline is about is being willing to do things that aren't enjoyable immediately to obtain some later gratification.
I think that there's something deeper going on there as well. The degree to which you tend to think of a future you as a different self which is sometimes an idealized version of yourself.

When I procrastinate I feel like i'm leaving the responsibility to someone else, someone who has the motivation and pride and disciplin that I lack in that moment.

There's of course also a part of it that's anxiety. I want to write something good, and I genuinely believe I can, but I put it off. Because if I can't do it then that idealized self perception is shattered. That's a confrontation with myself I want to avoid.
 

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I think that there's something deeper going on there as well. The degree to which you tend to think of a future you as a different self which is sometimes an idealized version of yourself.

When I procrastinate I feel like i'm leaving the responsibility to someone else, someone who has the motivation and pride and disciplin that I lack in that moment.

There's of course also a part of it that's anxiety. I want to write something good, and I genuinely believe I can, but I put it off. Because if I can't do it then that idealized self perception is shattered. That's a confrontation with myself I want to avoid.
that's nicely put, i've always wondered how come i dislike my future self so much i save up all the shit jobs for him
 
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i watched a bit of that jordan peterson video where he chats to the cancelled guy and i had to stop watching after just a couple of minutes cos peterson looks so ill
Peterson’s first online appearance post-detox... looks very frail and pretty horrific to hear what he had to go through.. here it is:

 
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