The CIA

luka

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i think it's one of the great imponderables. sometimes their hidden hand is very much in view, as in the Black Panther film and the Marvel franchise more generally, or in this or that journalist or news story, but most of the time I assume it's very well concelaed.
 

luka

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i mean, i dont think all reality is a screenplay written by the CIA actually. i don't think every revolutionary cadre is a recruit, every foreign war and revolt is fomented by them etc. but the degree of their influence is beyond the scope of our educated guesses.
 

luka

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It's difficult to tell whether they're everywhere, they just want to give the impression they are and we fill in the blanks and assume the worst or they don't really think about us too much and they're an easy explanation for the paranoid.

theres no way for waste people like us to know. its ridiculus to even have an opinion.
 

version

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Be assured there are ex-young men, here in this very city, faces Slothrop used to pass in the quads, who got initiated at Harvard into the Puritan Mysteries: who took oaths in dead earnest to respect and to act always in the name of Vanitas, Emptiness, their ruler . . . who now according to life-plan such-and-such have come to Switzerland to work with Allen Dulles and his 'intelligence" network, which operates these days under the title "Office of Strategic Services." But to initiates OSS is also a secret acronym: as a mantra for times of immediate crisis they have been taught to speak inwardly oss . . . oss, the late, corrupt, Dark-age Latin word for bone. . . .

-- GR, 271.
 

luka

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that's becasue Craner is in the employ of the Ravelstein Foundation which is itself partly funded by the CIA
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Jan Irvin (grapejuice mentions him occasionally) thinks the entire counterculture was a CIA mind control job. https://logosmedia.com/2012/08/how-...e-largest-mind-control-operations-in-history/
(not coincidentally, spin offs of this "X-Club" include the X-men comic series (on eugenics and evolution) and Fourth World comics (on mind control) by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby – the “Forth World” being tied to the UN’s Agenda 21 (See the UN’s website - http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/) and (UNCED) Fourth World Wilderness – “battle for the mind” – conferences (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR0HMpuNZSM). My feeling is that the word "X" for MDMA is directly related.
Possibly many others.)

So it's definitely not just short for "xtasy", then?
 
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