Resistance is Futile.

[luka]

i just thought better to start it in a clumsy stupid way and then try to shape it once its on the wheel

 

[Mr. Tea]

given this is a wild and emotional over-reaction. i think it is safe to infer that mr tea got very good grades at school.

The implication, of course, being that anyone who did well at school was a hopelessly brainwashed sheeple, not a dangerously free-thinking radical like yourself.

 

[luka]

Tea! can we not have your emotions be the focus of this thread please!

 

[luka]

that part of the post was specfically put there to wind up corpsey who was telling me what grades he got at school yesterday you just got caught by a richocheting bit of shrapnel

 

[luka]

At Nottingham I got the highest mark for a double honours student in my year




I got a first at undergrad and a distinction at masters


corpsey · Mon 8:55 PM

 

[luka]

At GCSE I got one of the top 5 marks in the county for an English exam


Corpsey · Mon 8:54 PM

 

[Corpsey]

Hey — I told you and everyone I've ever met/spoken to that in complete confidence!

 

[shiels]

shit thread luka what the fuck are you on about

 

[Corpsey]

His first post I think was quite cogent but then he threw everyone a curveball by talking about how I got one of the top 5 GCSE marks in the country and later graduated with a first and THEN achieved a distinction at MA level. That just got in the way.

 

[luka]

shit thread luka what the fuck are you on about

i dont really know

 

[luka]

Tea's not happy though. let's call the whole thing off. forget i said anything.

 

[shiels]

It must be inspired by your comment on the Kate Tempest thread about outcast writers. You're resentful that there's little currency in the voice of the lone contrarian these days.

 

[luka]

no, its been something ive wanted to talk about for a year at least. i was provoked by barty saying 'The Man' doesnt exist.

 

[constant escape]

We came to the conclusion that it's not about changing the world, defeating evil for once and for all. It's about keeping the fires burning.

In a sense, we can see the rebel, and the rebellious movement, as being opposed to the world/system only in as far as a vaccine is opposed to a body - merely introducing another perspective/ideology to be subsumed.

We can reckon with the death of the rebel, or we can reckon with the perennial function of the rebel to make the system stronger. Both of those frame it in an unfavorable light, but that is by no means the only light to see them in, no?

How can we learn to adapt and "shed" these notions, without it feeling like succumbing to some bleak beast? I think it's possible. Maybe it involves tapping into some kind of collective mind, the swarm entity that actually benefits from the passions and trials of certain rebel figures. That is, instead of identifying as the vaccine, the purpose of which is to dissipate and make the body stronger. From this swarm/body perspective, not only is the dismal reckoning sidestepped, but the rebel's nobility is actually preserved.

 

[shiels]

the top 5 GCSE marks in the country

we need a what did you get in your GCSEs thread, cards on the table. then maybe sufi can give us colour codes or nick names based on intelligence

 

[Corpsey]

I've been privately calling for a "what do your parents do, where did you grow up, where did you go to school and how much do you stand to inherit" thread so I can get a big chip on my shoulder.

 

[Corpsey]

This is after finding out that Sadmanbarty is the great great grandson of the Earl of Norfolk or something.

 

[shiels]

no, its been something ive wanted to talk about for a year at least. i was provoked by barty saying 'The Man' doesnt exist.

And you you think there's a prevalent idea of intelligence as the ability to understand and game systems? But you think the most intelligent refute the system entirely, which brings values into the picture? or something

 

[luka]

And you you think there's a prevalent idea of intelligence as the ability to understand and game systems? But you think the most intelligent refute the system entirely, which brings values into the picture? or something

Not exactly. was saying any old shit to get some movement.

 

[luka]

I don't really think Corpsey is stupid for getting good grades.