luka

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it doesn't have to. i don't think you need to physically inhabit these spaces either. usually we just let the eye travel into them.
 

woops

is not like other people
definitely with my limited urbexing i felt an anticlimax once we were "there", just "in" the space with no sense of change or moment
 

Linebaugh

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A friend got busted exploring an abandoned building and if his parents didnt have the cash for the ridiculously high bail he would have spent near a month in the klink. watch out fellas
 
Part of the allure in the empty or digitally rendered place is the simplicity, the reduction, the lack of complexity that comes with being entangled with other people, power dynamics etc
 

luka

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Part of the allure in the empty or digitally rendered place is the simplicity, the reduction, the lack of complexity that comes with being entangled with other people, power dynamics etc
other stuff comes to the fore. what does a room think about when it's finished work for the day? the canteen outside of meal times. the holiday resort in the off season.
 
definitely with my limited urbexing i felt an anticlimax once we were "there", just "in" the space with no sense of change or moment
Now I think of it, when I was in my teens I did a fair bit climbing about, and breaking into places drunk, and the challenge was more interesting than the places we arrived.
 

Linebaugh

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what do we become aware of when our brain is not having to frantically scan for social cues.
think its also hard to shake the feeling that truly no one is watching. Surely they must be there, you just cant see them
 

luka

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it is difficult, yes. and even if you convinced yourself you were truly alone, what would you do? but i think it's more about being able to stop processing social information leaving your awareness free to travel elsewhere. that's why if you want to be a top prophet you have to go into the wilderness for a bit.
 

Linebaugh

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I often imagine how I would look if my actions alone were reviewed by a focus group in my presence. And the trip to the forest, just shaking the sense that there is expectations to return from the forest with some revelations to share would taint the whole trip.
 

luka

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‘You don’t have the implant and yet you are ‘in game’ i don’t understand’
‘I am Dungeon Master. I represent out of game and beyond game within game
and thus straddle all worlds. I am the hierophant, the guide, the guardian, the wizened wize old man who may speak only in a manner elliptical but each riddle shall unknot itself becoming quite clear at quests end. I am no sprite or pixel but quite real and concrete and exist simultaneously as a result of my own exemplary efforts and as a matter of necessity for there can be no game without a dungeon master. I am the lord of all adventures.’
WRITER you have chosen, pre-game, before the beginning of time before the incarnation as all choose. Do you remember the room-outside-of-time?

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COSMIC SLOP.
In the Room of Cosmic Plumbing,
Recalibration is in Progress.
The Recirculation of Cosmic Slop/pissing in the amitotic fluid.
‘Ok, just tuning you in now.’ Mild mannered technician turns dial, frequencies replace one another on a CONTINUUM OF INTENSITY.

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Goetic trance.​

(The chamber-outside-time.)

The chamber-outside-time is circular. The room is luxurious, opulent but not overbearingly so. A louche atmosphere. Faintly seedy. Intimate as a boudoir.
In the middle of the room is the vision-bowl.
-Wraith-like vapours rise from the vision-bowl.-
There are pillows and divans surrounding the vision-bowl. To look into the vision bowl is to become transfixed by its visions.
To become transfixed by the visions is to be incarnate. Within space-time.
If, by some act of ferocious will or magical force a person manages to tear his gaze from the vision-bowl he will find himself back in the chamber-outside-time.

Oh-ho! here again!
A sense almost of vertigo, rush of recognition and remembrance as the chamber takes shape around you
its contours becoming clearer, memories come into focus

hologram
within game
At limits of game space. Replicates itself.
Mirrors, srorriM​
wraps around self.​
IN GAME. which is to say, way to represent outside within parameters of game.
at furthest reaches of code. algorhythms of delicious paradox. place where we feel at home.

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Room opens out to contain the dimensions of the mind. inside the walls of the skull.

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the door to the teenage bedroom is always closed as it is the first space we learn to expand into. within those limits we extend consciousness beyond the skull walls. it is a training programme.
 

suspendedreason

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Peli Grietzer's Amerikkkkka is the most compelling AG work I've come across in a long time, a little PDF from Gauss that swings between prog-rock style postmodernism and velvet-in-tatters art-rock avant. I should post some excerpts.
 
A fella on my MA referred to Under the Skin during a discussion about the avant-garde and got chewed out by the lecturer for a good ten minutes
 
My knee-jerk reaction was "well, it starred Scarlett Johansson and I saw it at the Odeon in Camden" but then I suppose a good point of comparison might be that Beckett film with Buster Keaton in it which wasn't exactly pitched at the man on the Clapham omnibus
 

Linebaugh

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Was the basis of the argument that it starred a famous actress and mass presentation?

Haven't seen Under The Skin in a long time, and was even less qualified than I am now to gauge these things, but that doesn't seem like a bad suggestion by the student
 
Was the basis of the argument that it starred a famous actress and mass presentation?

Haven't seen Under The Skin in a long time, and was even less qualified than I am now to gauge these things, but that doesn't seem like a bad suggestion by the student
I'm not sure it was so much that as a criterion for what constituted an "avant-garde" so much as there is an existing strand of filmmaking which is considered to be so, and which Under the Skin is (I suppose) not considered to be a part of (by the academy)?
 
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