version

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I’ve mentioned it before on here but you should give Damasios looking for Spinoza a go for a neuroscientific spin on his ideas, it’s great
I enjoyed this when you posted it.
 
The writing is bad on a level. But a biological spirituality, yes of course, there’s a simplicity there that I like
 

luka

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He invited Nina Power out for coffee after she slagged him off on her blog years ago. Not sure if she went. This was 1000 years ago. You've just reminded me of it.
 

Corpsey

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This thread is giving me that "I should read every philosopher before I die or I've failed" feeling.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
ive never read any nietzsche where should i start. he's the most influential philosopher i think.
Twilight of the Idols was my first, and the penguin edition I had even framed it as a "lightning tour" through his thought.

You get some of his thoughts on societal decadence starting with Socrates, calling Socrates ugly; denouncements of egalitarianism as mediocre (people leaning on each other; absence of the "pathos of distance" that arises between the great/strong and the weak); history of how reality was rendered more and more abstract until we lost track of it, death of whatever role God played. There was some critique of morality, but I don't think he gets into the moral world order. He just points out the hypocrisy in how, in order to assert a moral judgment, one presupposes that they are above the system enough to see it clearly.

I haven't touch Zarathustra yet, but there was an excerpt from it at the end of Twilight, "The Hammer Speaks", about being as hard as a diamond, as opposed to everyone else being coal, brittle.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Aside from that I've only read Antichrist, which is largely about the moral world order, and Christianity being a toxic and degrading ideological force. Pity for the weak makes you weak, and thus the whole thing is engineered as a contagion of weakness, etc. I don't recall seeing anything about Dionysius here, but its strange because that is where I would have assumed he'd get into it.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
He's also sort of the ur-incel, isn't he?
Totally, man. He proposed to Andreas Salome twice, I believe, and got rejected both times. And apparently Richard Wagner told Nietzsche's physician that his ailment/condition was from excessive masturbation.

I'm unclear about Nietzsche's take on women, but I'm inclined to believe he posits them as being, maybe, derived from different archetypes. Whether or not this difference brings about a superiority/inferiority relationship, I don't know.
 

catalog

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he seems to be the sort of bedrock for almost all of the french 70s school, in the same way marx and freud are the bedrock for others. those three are still the bedrocks
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Yeah I've heard those three referred to as the primary figures in the "school of suspicion". Not sure how useful that is as a category though.

And yeah they do seem to launch discourses that collide and mingle into the post-structural crowd. I wonder if any of those guys would consider them as a kind of trio/triptych.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Well I even heard some guy mention it in a Yale lecture


but I only got a few minutes into this one because it seem to be too reductive. Weber could arguably be the fourth fixture, which is probably what this guy would have you believe. He said Weber's challenge to the orthodoxy was more complex than Nietzsche, Freud and Marx. Quite an assertion.
 

catalog

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yes i stan for weber, he was better than Marx IMO. he constantly revised his position and just said things would get bad very slowly
 

catalog

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also he liked baths. i would not really consider him a philosopher tho, more a sociologist, but i suppose those labels are sort of meaningless
 
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