Bad Boy Chiller Crew

[IdleRich]

corpsey keeps threatening to create a thread called 'white power' (and then bottling out of it) which would examine how we think of 'whiteness' in music and high focus would be an interesting case study.

 

[luka]

corpey actually shared a flat with Dr Syntax for a bit

 

[IdleRich]

This is what I know. Don’t ask me how I’m not sure

Not a bad thing let me hastily say. I think without this being there at some point, or some other way of escalating your resistance to things you're not happy with then you can become a pushover, a doormat.
I mean, I guess the best way of preventing that is to be one of those people who exudes a calm authority - but few are lucky enough to be blessed with that, certainly not me.

 

[shiels]

a philosophical and ethical resistance to glamour. a british interpretation of keeping it real.

it’s also deeply unsexual, unromantic. They might mention fingering or something. There’s one song on an album dedicated to a woman actually

 

[IdleRich]

You saw "wow" Luka but even that is hardly unrestrained joy at whiteness, I mean "I'm alright" is fairly weak really (albeit surprising) celebration. It's only rock n roll but I like it type thing.

 

[shiels]

 

[luka]

musically it's beholden to the late 90s

 

[DannyL]

it’s also deeply unsexual, unromantic. They might mention fingering or something. There’s one song on an album dedicated to a woman actually

UK hip hop was always a sausage fest. I mean, same with drill and grime but at least desire or sex more accurately is acknowledged I guess.

 

[DannyL]

The opening post is a million times better than all this stuff. At least they look like they're having a laugh.

 

[luka]

drill is anti-sex. head is aceeptable but vaginal sex is gay.

 

[DannyL]

I think BBCC are having a laugh because they are not encumbered with the weight of the 4 elements and keeping it real.

 

[DannyL]

It's from a different place in the timeline. Mercifully, they've escaped the clutches of the hip hop undead.

 

[luka]

I think BBCC are having a laugh because they are not encumbered with the weight of the 4 elements and keeping it real.

it's the moral and intellectual seriousness of hip-hop that appeals to its fans though. there's no subsititue for that anywhere in music. even with this stuff. there's something eternal about it. it answers a community need.

 

[WashYourHands]

Bristol's alright. Apart from the accent. If you really want to wind them up, deliberately confuse Fred West not coming from Gloucester and there's a cover-up. Watch and wait for the squirm.

 

[luka]

UK hip hop was always a sausage fest. I mean, same with drill and grime but at least desire or sex more accurately is acknowledged I guess.

there's something important about masculinity and that here isn't there. something about nice solid four square gender role stuff in rap traditionally before young thug started wearing a dress and ruining everything,

 

[DannyL]

The HF stuff seems to me very sexless in a v English way. It'd be interested to plot the attitudes to sex and how they're different across all the different UK MC musics.

 

[DannyL]

it's the moral and intellectual seriousness of hip-hop that appeals to its fans though. there's no subsititue for that anywhere in music. even with this stuff. there's something eternal about it. it answers a community need.

The cosplaying and fantasy aspects you alluded to above in combination with a moral po-facedness reminds me almost exactly of let's just say.... a recently passed political development on the Left. It seems an exact analogy to me.

 

[luka]

The cosplaying and fantasy aspects you alluded to above in combination with a moral po-facedness reminds me almost exactly of let's just say.... a recently passed political development on the Left. It seems an exact analogy to me.

Danny are you about to damage our relationship by comparing High Focus records with Jeremy Corbyn's Labour leadership?

 

[luka]

part of the reason we are fascinated and horrified by this stuff is that it's something that we could have almost liked, in another timeline, another universe, adjacent to this one. i think Corpsey would say the same. in fact all three of us could have formed a group and recorded for the label were circumstances ever so slightly different.

 

[DannyL]

part of the reason we are fascinated and horrified by this stuff is that it's something that we could have almost liked, in another timeline, another universe, adjacent to this one. i think Corpsey would say the same. in fact all three of us could have formed a group and recorded for the label were circumstances ever so slightly different.

Yeah, totally. There's a sense of total familarity with where they've come from, we recognise all the reference points and can plot the journey. it's kind of us without the stablising influence of pirate radio tbh.

Surely one of the glories of High Focus is that age (and relevance to youth culture etc) is no barrier anymore? We could still do it.