luka

Well-known member
i dont want to reduce it down to just envy and resentment but thats part of it. there's also the terrible realisation that it is possible to create a scene and occupy space in the real world, as a paste person. in other words, you could have done it, if you had been able to overcome your inhibitions. and probably still could.
 

luka

Well-known member
what are your thoughts Corpsey? i know all these subjects, being paste, being a teenage hiphop fan etc are very close to your heart
 
I don't identify with the paste, it's not something im reacting to. deep down ive always believed that im very special
 
Not exactly but I think we can all agree that deep down absolutely everyone here wants to be in a famous rap crew with their mates. Let's be honest. Let's all admit that together as an exercise in trust and get to a deeper level of understanding of ourselves and the world around us.
 

luka

Well-known member
Not exactly but I think we can all agree that deep down absolutely everyone here wants to be in a famous rap crew with their mates. Let's be honest. Let's all admit that together as an exercise in trust and get to a deeper level of understanding of ourselves and the world around us.

i think that this is undeniable.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I think that relatability is part of what put me off UK Hip Hop back in the days when it wouldn't been the cultural conservatism that did it. (And it just being a bit crap generally.)

As you say, there's a lure in it becoming more accessible (it could be me) but there's also a loss of glamour, which is definitely a big part of the appeal of rap music for a suburbanite limey like me.

There was a deliberate, conspicuous lack of glamour in UKHH of the sort we're discussing. It was depressing, in the same way as kitchen sink drama is depressing.

Interesting how somebody brought up mike skinner, cos I actually did like the streets a lot more. For one thing it wasn't copying superior American music, but it was also actually more relatable lyrically than Jehst e.g.

I think there is something about that mid 90s new york sound - samples of melancholy pianos etc. - that 'fits' with life in Britain, where the sky is always grey, it's always raining, everything's a bit depressing. Unfortunately that makes for a mopey sort of sound. Grumpy white men.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I was also into skateboarding back then, and british skateboarding was also depressing, because you couldn't help but compare it to american skateboarding.

American skateboarding was technically better, had more money in it and (on video) took place largely in permanently sunny californian landscapes.

British skateboarding was taking place in Milton Keynes.
 

luka

Well-known member
Mike Skinner was trying to solve the same problems. how do you rap as a paste person? how do you anything as a paste person beyond being paste? you have a lot of the same elements in Skinner, video games, drugs, sitting in a shit flat getting stoned, nights out, the aftermath of nights out and the infrastructure of kebab shop, all night garage, night bus, mini cab.
 

luka

Well-known member
futility, depression, foreboding, despair sometimes lifted by transcendent drug experiences which give you a greater horizon to fix your gaze upon, at least for a while.
 

version

Well-known member
I literally have been there, being a knobhead in the back of a mate's Vauxhall Astra.
I had a proper "What am I doing?" moment once whilst crammed into the back of some crappy car balanced on breezeblocks in this guy's mum's driveway. Six of us in there getting stoned with bassline and Afroman playing off someone's phone. Awful.
 
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