John Hassell

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Cultural imperialist carpet-bagger or visionary guru of dissensusism?

Obvs the guardian makes him sound dull as a ditch, https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...rotter-be-more-aware-of-the-rest-of-the-world but he was around for some exciting moments, and Eno highly rates him (yawn)

What was he on about with all that 4th world claptrap? is that still viable or highly cancellable?

Perhaps we should invite him over for a chat, @Leo probably has his number ;)
 
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Leo

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I'm of no help here, I'm afraid. don't think I've ever heard anything by him, only know his name via the Eno connection.
 

WashYourHands

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All up for scalping unjustified worship of idols, but JH is a beastly, world-class instrumentalist.

Youfuckintube have excluded (hurrah for some) my favourite composition of his called Blue Period, but Spotify has it. Perfect for a sultry, summer afternoon

edit - cunts only allow a clip, so this proves very little.
 

luka

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fourth world is a good concept provided it rests on exoticism, fetishisation, othering and projection. that gives you scope for something that contains pulp energies. something unclean, base and vital.
 

DannyL

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I'm a big fan though I think he fell off a bit after the mid 80s. Didn't dig the 808 state collabs. The whole concept of it I liked as it was approaching "world music" as something a bit more than exotic texture, though its blend into a 4th world music, rahther than taking it on it's own terms- is more questionable though when he was writing the more complex charges of appropriation and the like weren't so visible. It's very post modern, in sync with it's original 80s coinage. Bricolage.

I think the best 4th world record is one he never made - Hector Zazou & Bony Biyake's Noir Et Blanc:

 

luka

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what im arguing is that it is better as exotic texture. that's where it works. the more self-conscious and apologetic it gets the less merit it has
 

blissblogger

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the records he did with Eno and/ or on Eno's label, are great... dreamspace shimmerscapes... exoticizing in exactly the way Luke talks about

love City: Works of Fiction at the time but listening again recently sounded a bit airless

he talks a good spiel but it's substantiated by the music, for the most part - at least in his prime

he's terminally ill isn't he, there's a fundraiser for his health costs
 

DannyL

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His stuff isn't self conscious and apologetic though. It's v assured and good, even great at times. Reminds me of Terry Riley a bit who I think he worked with. I have a live CD that's amazing.
You'd need to post examples of what you mean.
 
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