R&B you should know and love

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
and fantasy is the operative word here. The best rnb skirts between being real and dramatised. that convergence point. real rnb is soul, which is exactly why alexander o'neil jam and lewis, etc etc were revolutionary, because they plasticised the old soul template. Aretha is celestial as opposed to being overtly 'sexy'
 

kumar

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I didn't "get" r&b until I was in my 20s because I didn't understand truly the emotions you find in r&b. Like I could tell a song was horny or heartbroken or whatever but I couldn't relate. Well, I don't think relate is the right word - because it's a genre based on performance and demonstration, r&b is all outsize emotions that you can insert yourself into, whether its sexier than sex itself or sadder than sadness itself etc.
That's the pleasure of life: framing random actions and events in a narrative drama. A sign of depression is not being able to do that, a total inability to tolerate or create illusions and aspirations which are both closely related and indispensable. I can see that to somebody in state of depression, R&B could be pure torture. I always go back to how much heartbreak I channeled through Jagged Edge's 'Walked Outta Heaven': it was the perfect song at the right moment, a vehicle for expressing and dramatizing my own emotions. It magnified them, but also stopped them becoming destructive.

thats so good, its like a more sensible version of the idea mircea eliade describes in the eternal return, suggesting that daily experience of an ancient world could have been comprised of successive archetypal reenactments and reincarnated gestures. that when you fetch water in the morning it is not you at that moment who is doing so but the mythological hero who first fetched water, the activities and struggles of the day being made bearable by continual ritual repetition of the world’s foundation. except instead of an ancient polynesian fishing god its tlc.
 

woops

is not like other people
i wish dissensus was like this all the time

boxedjoy said:
I didn't "get" r&b until I was in my 20s because I didn't understand truly the emotions you find in r&b. Like I could tell a song was horny or heartbroken or whatever but I couldn't relate. Well, I don't think relate is the right word - because it's a genre based on performance and demonstration, r&b is all outsize emotions that you can insert yourself into, whether its sexier than sex itself or sadder than sadness itself etc.
craner said:
That's the pleasure of life: framing random actions and events in a narrative drama. A sign of depression is not being able to do that, a total inability to tolerate or create illusions and aspirations which are both closely related and indispensable. I can see that to somebody in state of depression, R&B could be pure torture. I always go back to how much heartbreak I channeled through Jagged Edge's 'Walked Outta Heaven': it was the perfect song at the right moment, a vehicle for expressing and dramatizing my own emotions. It magnified them, but also stopped them becoming destructive.

thats so good, its like a more sensible version of the idea mircea eliade describes in the eternal return, suggesting that daily experience of an ancient world could have been comprised of successive archetypal reenactments and reincarnated gestures. that when you fetch water in the morning it is not you at that moment who is doing so but the mythological hero who first fetched water, the activities and struggles of the day being made bearable by continual ritual repetition of the world’s foundation. except instead of an ancient polynesian fishing god its tlc.
 

luka

Well-known member
boxedjoy is a dissensus superstar bt unfortunately we allowed third to harrass him off the internet due to our liberal tolerance and coweardice
 

catalog

Well-known member
i know, it's terrible more of us did not jump in and tell third to chill out. i feel very guilty about that. i have tried to convince boxed to return but he's not having it.
 

catalog

Well-known member
thats so good, its like a more sensible version of the idea mircea eliade describes in the eternal return, suggesting that daily experience of an ancient world could have been comprised of successive archetypal reenactments and reincarnated gestures. that when you fetch water in the morning it is not you at that moment who is doing so but the mythological hero who first fetched water, the activities and struggles of the day being made bearable by continual ritual repetition of the world’s foundation. except instead of an ancient polynesian fishing god its tlc.

i felt this way when i had to dig the grass off an allotment. it was really backbreaking work. you first have to chop through the grass, then roll it off, then dig a foot of earth below that. took me all day and at one point when i raised the spade for the umpteenth time i felt transported back to a different time and place.
 

catalog

Well-known member
its a failure of liberalism. ive always said this. i am as guilty as anyone.
me too. we need to stop it happening. i think he's chased xenogoth off now as well, ocs he usually cam eon when tagged but i think he's thought "fuck it" now as well
 

luka

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ultimately though without sufi to back it up all complaints are toothless as he goads me with and taunts me any time i get annoyed with him
 

woops

is not like other people
luke i dunno if you got my text but make sure you put gloves on today my fingers were freezin yesterday
 

luka

Well-known member
luke i dunno if you got my text but make sure you put gloves on today my fingers were freezin yesterday
my phone is switched off but i dont need gloves evn when its 6 degrees cos i dont smoke so my circulation is not too bad
 

catalog

Well-known member
i just think we need to have a bit of a think on this because we lose a lot of good people. and not to harp on, but sometimes you have also chased people off a bit as well. so we could do with some kind of thing where we try stop it happening. i mean polystyle's gone now ffs.
 

luka

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well to be honest all the people i could be said to have chased off i am really pleased are gone. every day i wake up ecstatic that they are not here
 
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