Benny Bunter
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So are we all agreed NY in this era beats Chicago and Detroit then?
Ravey New York dance music - late 80s-early 90s
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Simon silverdollarcircle
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I definitely think the best of it has this kind of feverish energy that you don't really get anywhere else
Like that Critical Rhythm tune..it's all over the place innit? Pulling in all these different directions at once
Don't get that so much in Detroit and Chicago I think
Like that Critical Rhythm tune..it's all over the place innit? Pulling in all these different directions at once
Don't get that so much in Detroit and Chicago I think
Benny Bunter
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Love how todd terry made party people, day in the life and a load of others within a matter of days of hearing chicago house for the first time, as a pisstake, just sampling off some mixtape a mate gave him. And he did take huge chunks and rip people off, but what he produced shat all over the originals iyam
This is why NY is so much closer to uk rave than chicago and detroit
This is why NY is so much closer to uk rave than chicago and detroit
Simon silverdollarcircle
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Simon silverdollarcircle
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I guess DJ Pierre has a similar energy but he was in new York by the early 90s anyway I think?
Benny Bunter
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Yeah i reckon you could post some dj pierre tunes definitely, he was there at the time
WashYourHands
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With regards to loose ideas about rave, you even got a 'Belgium' mix on this beast
Benny Bunter
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Thats the thing, it's the roots of uk rave but also all the hard european stuff that fed into uk rave with beltram and lenny dee. Not to mention uk garage.
Benny Bunter
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But i don't think we should post roots of uk garage stuff as much unless it's really ruff, as much as I like a lot of it. It'll end up up too much like the deep house thread
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Agreed. Probably the distinction between NY and Jersey too. Haven’t seen many of these tracks posted among Zanzibar set lists.
Benny Bunter
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"After he had begun producing records, Bones was offered a gig to play for 5,000 people in England called "Energy".[9] As the event started on August 26, 1989, he played to the unexpected number of 25,000 people.[10]
Bones is recognized to have spread the idea of Peace, Love, Unity and Respect (PLUR) into rave culture.[3][2] Supposedly in response to a fight that broke out at one of his Storm Raves in Brooklyn in June 1993, Bones is said to have got on the microphone and yelled: "If you don't start showing some peace, love, and unity, I'll break your faces."[17
Benny Bunter
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So the uk definitely fed back into this stuff. I think todd terry had a similarly mindblowing experience of coming over to play at some rave in the uk and witnessing a field full of people going mental to one of his tunes at +8
Leo
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he was there all the time, unless he was out of town throwing a Storm Rave somewhere. he worked the register, bought lots of singles off him. he was ok, riding high at the time with a booming DJ schedule. the three of them -- Frankie, Adam, heather -- are old-school Brooklyn, not from the hipster areas (which actually didn't exist in Brooklyn until the past 20 years). as such, he's has his share of troubles over the years with drugs, shady sexist behavior, etc. when their Brooklyn raves started to get popular back in the day, they decided to try it out in Manhattan and found a place a block away from the NYC Limelight (which was the main club at the time). the next day, a few mobbed up guys beat up Frankie and told him to go back to Brooklyn, LOL!
his brother Adam was one of the early subway car taggers, they used to talk about sneaking into train yards In the wee hours and tagging them.
he's actually started throwing small free parties on Sunday nights at a park beneath the Verrazano Bridge that connect Brooklyn and Staten Island.
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Benny Bunter
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Leo
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The Detroit guys were artists, from well-off middle-class suburban homes. The NY guys were more old-school Brooklyn hustlers, living by their wits. that distinction is evident in the sounds of the two. Chicago had elements of both, lots of cheaply made early house and acid stuff that has that NY urgency and rawness.
I went on a mission to new York to hear this in the right place. Didn't quite succeed, was impossible to get in anywhere there aged 19.
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Benny Bunter
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Were you clubbing at the time, Leo?
Leo
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not a lot but some. the main problem was I came out of a rock/punk upbringing and was the only one in my circle of friends who got into this stuff, so I didn't know anyone who'd want to go. I probably went on about two-thirds of my clubbing adventures on my own, which isn't as much fun as having a crew.