WashYourHands

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i don't think he's mocking. i suppose that's the difference. i believe him. i think there's some sincerity.
Beefheart could cover four octaves. Never once in listening to him and his bands have i thought "he's mocking" black vocals. Only a dick would think that (not you @catalog).

@luka and @craner what have you got against a good ol' dose of weirdness from time to time? Answers on a virtual postcard, please. The Residents? Devo? Oh god no, not those bloody colonials with their weird-beard affectations. Sun Ra? No, no dear boy, cunt thought he was a space-Egyptian etc. If you whip me with wet towels in the changing rooms i'm telling on youse both.

Truth be told, if you do listen to Trout Mask Replica once (particularly the 1st time), maybe twice, you can leave it or pick it up again a decade or so later if you have to. It's an outlier for its time and usually the most cited/divisive of their releases, but my pers preference is for the more coherent, blues-edged material released either side of it, so that's where i'm headed. I got the week off (huzzah), kids are with my sis, done all my chores like a domestic overlord, got a copy of ableton to fuck around with (ta la!), but can i install it, enjoy fucking round with tunes until the wife goes to work? Can i fuck. Wife told me she's been thinking about another baby recently and i have to process that too btw. Do you know how much mechanical fucking that takes? These are not the sperm of a 25year old, but i'll do my best for god, the queen and country, jfc.

What was the question again?
 

WashYourHands

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@version - can you add Yorkshire Gods to the tags pwease. Posted to a mate who is a bit miffed i'm not emphasising the glory of Yorkshire enough.

Aaron, if you're reading this fuck off back down the Yorkshire mine you crawled out of. I asked ok, but now i've got to summarise a few Beefheart tunes to some serious cynics. Embrace the coming pain lads, it's character forming.
 

catalog

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@version - can you add Yorkshire Gods to the tags pwease. Posted to a mate who is a bit miffed i'm not emphasising the glory of Yorkshire enough.

Aaron, if you're reading this fuck off back down the Yorkshire mine you crawled out of. I asked ok, but now i've got to summarise a few Beefheart tunes to some serious cynics. Embrace the coming pain lads, it's character forming.
You know you can add tags yourself wash?
 

IdleRich

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you and craner are like that guy in against nature going round with the tortoise on a lead. aesthetes bemoaning things. not that i've read it.
If I remember rightly it's not on a lead it's just in his house wandering round. I think it has a jewel encrusted shell.
Gerard de Nerval used to walk around with a lobster on a lead though I think if that helps.
 

WashYourHands

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We were being silly washerman. Having a laugh over morning coffee.
Coffee is banned, got prohibition agents stripping shop shelves as i type. This isn't David Lynch.

It's busy here in the a.m. How do you all have and/or make the time? Chaos this end around the first chunk of the day.
 

catalog

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If I remember rightly it's not on a lead it's just in his house wandering round. I think it has a jewel encrusted shell.
Gerard de Nerval used to walk around with a lobster on a lead though I think if that helps.
Never read it but it's on the list!
 

luka

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Coffee is banned, got prohibition agents stripping shop shelves as i type. This isn't David Lynch.

It's busy here in the a.m. How do you all have and/or make the time? Chaos this end around the first chunk of the day.
We gave our children away to gypsies. Advise you to do the same
 

WashYourHands

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Interlude.

A mixture of songs sung to me as a kid, a few from typical football road trips (usually after a win) and one my uncles still sing to our kids to get them to settle on increasingly rare visits. The opposite of sentimentality. Distilled emotion and experiences. One carries a ton of extra weight for v personal reasons.

Needless to say, the background to so much here was the Troubles. Such a neat wee term that, troubles. It encapsulates the dissociative and dismissive elements that entire war wrought on loved ones from both sides, catholic and protestant. Because it was a fucking war. That's why getting on a coach for the collective trek north of the border to watch the Hoops was a pressure valve for so many people you knew at the time, most of them ghosts now. That's the one bit of sentimentalism that's allowed in. To all of these people, thank you for your guidance which can never be repaid.

I couldn't stomach the Clancy Brothers as a youth. The jumpers, performing like the stage was a pub, but my Gran would sing this in Gaelic in the pub and you'll never hear a crowd of miscreants hush down as quickly. She'd stand up, unaccompanied in her cardy and let it all out. Liam nails it here


Got a nipper screaming/teething? Sing or play this asap


Arrested at Ibrox? Blast this at the law in their van and cells


Win away at Hearts against the Jambos? Time for


Win the league or anniversaries of Lisbon Lions in '67? Definitely get your man with the fiddle onto this while getting completely tanked

 

WashYourHands

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Fuck yeah. How good is/was John Sheehan. Never mind the ringed dancers, listen to the cunt play.

Right, where were we? Beefheart. Not everything, clearly. Plenty of bunk. I can empathise with the too weird for the sake of it position and where it comes from = overload. Pretentious? BH and the Magic Band come at you with heart. They were never going to sustain peaks. First heard through the radio, followed by blagged copies of tapes.

What i tried to do is what you'd all do with tape initially- make compilations that are the bedrock of mix-tapes. A Walkman helped for kicking your heels , as most gadget formats invariably do. Music manifested among a blizzard of hash. At times certain songs remind me of Oi!, the way you could/can get a bop on to them. They can groove, except never really perceived as a dance band. In the dark of night, however, when everything can get a bit crooked man in a crooked house making deals with the moon, press play.

Chronology, just no Trout Mask Replica. It's like watersports - you have a go and ultimately it finds a niche fanbase elsewhere. Not judging piss fans, you do your thing, get wet and gargle or whatever the protocols are. Safe as Milk is solid, even has a theremin tucked away in some songs.




Strictly Personal has much more focused highs. Feel they got off the leash and away from a 60's sound, pers preferences


and if you're that way inclined and really want to get right on one matey, this extended piece of the same song later on is the tits


need a bit of bass and volume



Look at all these white people trying to dance like vultures. The mic's a bit low at the start but it picks up. The lp version doesn't quite have the chutzpah, still a beast when they open up the valve


If you ain't feeling this one, you're dead inside


 
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