Self help

[DannyL]

Not that there's a "right" forum that I'm aware of.

 

[luka]

I kinda think this is the wrong forum for self help. Too arch and ironic.

On the other hand you lot seriously need help!

 

[DannyL]

I do have an attraction to some of that stuff and engagement with it, but I wouldn't discuss it here, I suspect. I quite like Stephen Covey, David Allen, and a few others.

 

[luka]

Me and Shiels will lead a male encounter group in Sedona later this year

 

[version]

One of the guys on the Pynchon sub did some thing where they were all sent out into the desert in different directions with a big thing of water and no food then had to come back three days later and discuss what happened.

 

[DannyL]

One of the guys on the Pynchon sub did some thing where they were all sent out into the desert in different directions with a big thing of water and no food then had to come back three days later and discuss what happened.

What happened?

 

[version]

I can't remember. I think he said he just sat on a cliff. Apparently some people burst into tears talking about various traumas which came up whilst they were out there.

 

[shiels]

I kinda think this is the wrong forum for self help. Too arch and ironic.

I’m not being dismissive. Not completely anyway. This is everywhere now, this permeates all we do. It’s a role we increasingly feel comfortable slipping into and it’s about language we’re using more often

 

[version]

I’m not being dismissive. Not completely anyway. This is everywhere now, this permeates all we do. It’s a role we increasingly feel comfortable slipping into and it’s about language we’re using more often

The image of our age.

 

[shiels]

What I find especially hilarious is the self appointment and the jump required to slip into guru mode. I think it’s within us all if we’re given the right context and audience

 

[luka]

I wonder about that. It might actually be quite difficult. Many are called but few are chosen.

 

[Leo]

also, you need to delegate pretty much every worry and mundane task in your life to someone. a guru isn't burdened by life's day-to-day....paying electric bills, grocery shopping, renewing your license, paying annual insurance premiums, stops at the gas station, etc.

 

[WashYourHands]

A white robe.

E45 cream and smooth palms that have never done a proper day's graft, ever.

Toe rings.

A cat called Jung.

A teepee, complete with dream-catchers, finger bell chimes and a harem of previously itinerant young women who you're secretly dosing daily with various psychedelic and dissociative drugs to keep them compliant and malleable. A few of them are heavily pregnant with your children, so you make those ones do any/all communal plantation work to show the others you're not to be trifled with.

Chlamydia, undiagnosed.

Narcissistic personality disorder, diagnosed, but you refuse any inter-muscular antipsychotic medication injections from the shrink in order to embrace and scry the seething inner-life sphere, aka know thyself first.

 

[pattycakes_]

Have a read of the mooji thread if you haven't already, shiel

 

[shiels]

I often think about whether this is something I could do in good faith. I think st the moment, probably not, cos I've got some edges and sharp corners that need sanding down. I not ready to be completely nice yet. 90% nice but I still have some other urges.

I think you have what it takes... you have the megalomania and the natural authority but you’d have to curb the discerning side and all the aesthetic stuff. You’d only alienate people with that. You’d have to embrace a glorious universal basicness

 

[luka]

that actually involves forgoing a fair bit of vanity becasue you forfeit the ability and the right to talk to the intelligent

 

[shiels]

But in doing so you can build the means to avoid and pathologise all criticism. You want followers not peers

 

[woops]

arch irony is a relic of the self that needs overcoming

 

[luka]

But in doing so you can build the means to avoid and pathologise all criticism. You want followers not peers

this is an interesting question. it's never easy to answer. you've touched on it yourself in the past. do you want to be understood or not was, i think, how you phrased it.

 

[luka]

i think at root it is the contest between pride and submission so it takes on a theological dimension.