Homoerotic cinema club

catalog

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Missed that thread at the time, I'll go back. Just watching cyborg now cos my friend keeps pestering me about it.

Very homoerotic this though, the crucifix and everything. Topless in thd rain.
 

catalog

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the 00s/teens equivalent of 80s action homoeroticism btw is the comedy bromance

the testosterone levels are vastly lower (weed instead of steroids) and the sexual tension isn't as fierce or overt

but the two male characters are still clearly, vastly more interested in each other than their wives, gfs, etc

think Paul Rudd and/or Seth Rogen in any given Judd Apatow movie
This is effectively the dynamic with bunk and mcnulty in the wire. and then later freamon gets involved. And greggs is basically a bloke as well.
 

catalog

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if you've ever fought consensually or sparred with someone, you'll know it's maybe the closest you can be to another person besides sex

(streetfights etc don't work the same, the element of danger is uncontrolled so the fear is much different)

there is an intense shared physicality only sex overtakes

it doesn't have to be erotic at all but even when it isn't - watch professional fighters frequently hug when the fight ends
@padraig (u.s.) have you ever been in a street fight?
 

catalog

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All the chat in the other thread has reminded me of this thread and one of my all time favourite films Scum.

Can we go for a burn sir?


I think I told this story before but when I was at uni I was really into it so my friends who I lived with used to affectionately refer to me as "the daddy" and when they all went to Amsterdam they came back with a keyring which said "Anyone can be a father but it takes someone special to be a daddy" which was very touching. Of course ive lost it.
 

IdleRich

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think Paul Rudd and/or Seth Rogen in any given Judd Apatow movie

What's that weird film where Steve Coogan ams Paul Rudd are a dissatisfied couple whose relationship is... well, not exactly saved, but shaken up a bit by the arrival of a delinquent boy relative they have to look after? Rudd hides behind a beard so big that I literally did not recognise him until about halfway through the film.
 

version

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Finally watched Cruising last night. Loved it. When it looked like the killer would be neatly wrapped up I was a bit disappointed, but Friedkin knocked it out of the park by pulling back and piling on layers and layers of ambiguity instead.

Wonder whether Master and Commander . . . ending on the same piece was just a coincidence or some sort of nod.



It's tempting to read it as an AIDS metaphor, but you'd have to do it in a retroactive, 'death of the author' sense as the film came out a year or so before the first clinical reports. I'm sure someone's written a paper on it or something though, Pacino coming into contact with and, via transmission, seemingly taking on the form of a killer specifically targeting gay men in 80s New York.

I stuck a bit of the commentary on after finishing it and Friedkin said that bizarre bit with the guy in the jockstrap and cowboy hat at the police station was a real cop who actually did that during interrogations because it would rattle people and sound so unbelievable that the victim would seem like they were full of shit if they tried to report it to a judge or anyone who might be able to help.



The stuff with the police is one of the more intriguing aspects of the film, imo. There's this tension between the institutional phobias of the organisation, the personal phobias of the officers and the actual conduct of the officers, i.e. the policies of the department are hostile to queer people and the officers harass and abuse and insult them, but a couple of them are seen forcing sexual favours out of people on the street, one of them's seen in the clubs and the department itself has this guy walking around in a jockstrap and cowboy hat, roughing up prisoners, and employs at least one person as an informant.
 
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