Brotherhood

[luka]

That's right you should. You love it anyway I can tell. You grew up in a pisstaking male environment. A brutal cut throat world. I actuall pay had some DMT today it told me I've already won I can stop struggling and take some time to enjoy my victory.

 

[luka]

It also told me something profound about the roulette wheel of group intoxication. The kind of exchange of karma and identity that can take place.

 

[sus]

I interviewed Russell brand a couple of years back and he said

yes, it's specifically the lack of women in these spaces that allow men to emotionally open up. surprise! toxic masculinity was sexually enforced by women all along; Laura Betzig's done extensive research in this department

(this is my last post on the forum)

 

[shiels]

That's right you should. You love it anyway I can tell. You grew up in a pisstaking male environment. A brutal cut throat world. I actuall pay had some DMT today it told me I've already won I can stop struggling and take some time to enjoy my victory.

I do as I said in small doses. I miss it if I don’t have it. But also because of certain relationships I’d got sick of jostling and started to view certain challenges, certain energy as just pathetic and pointless, overlooked the value for a while

 

[luka]

Tbf I don't really have any male banter relationships at all. I can't hack it. Everyone trying to make each other fell small.

 

[luka]

I just felt it necessary to play devils advocate a little bit here and move away from the platitudes

 

[luka]

I don't often hang out in groups. In a solo consultations person.

 

[shiels]

yes, it's specifically the lack of women in these spaces that allow men to emotionally open up. surprise! toxic masculinity was sexually enforced by women all along; Laura Betzig's done extensive research in this department

(this is my last post on the forum)

quite the jump between your first and second sentences there but this is interesting. it shifts with generations too

I do think sexual dynamics complicate all relationships and their lack, or almost lack can allow for a certain emotional openness

 

[shiels]

Tbf I don't really have any male banter relationships at all. I can't hack it. Everyone trying to make each other fell small.

One on one it’s great, like we’re doing now. More than that and all intimacy is gone

With my mates I’ve had since I was a kid or with my da, it’s the only way we can show affection. If I try and say something sincere about what they mean to me were fighting back tears. Some friends anyway, others I gush with easily. with girl mates it can be less guarded more emotionally direct

platitudes though yes. I hate these messy generalisations

 

[Leo]

didn't barty create a different log-in and pretend to be a girl once, or am I just imagining that?

 

[luka]

He did yeah. He just wanted to make Sufi happy. It came from a good place.

 

[shiels]

Tbf I don't really have any male banter relationships at all. I can't hack it. Everyone trying to make each other fell small.

thiS is the main issue, why it’s exasperating. The inability to express love

 

[shiels]

Leo tell me you love me right now please. Don’t just tell me tell me in what ways specifically please right now

 

[luka]

I'm in quite a tough spot friendship wise. Ive outgrown most of my relationships with them. They're too thick and Unevolved. I need some upgrades.

 

[luka]

I've never had a social life. I've only had a string of intense pseudo romantic male friendships and then a few casual drinking or smoking weed relationships revolving around a mutual will to self destruction. It's not easy out there if you ask me

 

[shiels]

I'm in quite a tough spot friendship wise. Ive outgrown most of my relationships with them. They're too thick and Unevolved. I need some upgrades.

me too sometimes. There’s a common idea that this is different for men and women too. That men view friendships through the lens of interests, needing a reason to exist, a quantifiable output and use, what you do together... what you think?

 

[shiels]

The rest of the forum are reading this thread thinking ffs lads get a room! Not realising we’re sitting right beside each other with two cold lagers in Greenwich

 

[luka]

Totally naked. Nothing sexual about it. just at ease with the truth of who we are.

 

[luka]

I'm not going to drink again after blacking out on my birthday. I'm only doing strong drugs from now on.

 

[luka]

I'm in quite a tough spot friendship wise. Ive outgrown most of my relationships with them. They're too thick and Unevolved. I need some upgrades.

Before Woops thinks this is aimed at him I have to quickly say it's not. It's every one else