Evil Eye

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Wasn't there any double meaning at all in "On Vanishing Land", even if only subliminally, Mark must have been exorcising Nick?
 

luka

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he can't have been deaf to the double entrentrde no way. what is it though? its got evil eyes in it?
 

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Who loves ya, baby?
The Masons just popped up a bunch of times in Ulysses. Apparently Bloom was, or is, one,

-- He's in the craft, he said.

-- Do you tell me so? Davy Byrne said.

-- Very much so, Nosey Flynn said. Ancient free and accepted order. Light, life and love, by God. They give him a leg up. I was told that by a, well, I won't say who.

-- Is that a fact?

-- O, it's a fine order, Nosey Flynn said. They stick to you when you're down. I know a fellow was trying to get into it, but they're as close as damn it. By God they did right to keep the women out of it.

Davy Byrne smiledyawnednodded all in one:

-- Iiiiiichaaaaaaach!

-- There was one woman, Nosey Flynn said, hid herself in a clock to find out what they do be doing. But be damned but they smelt her out and swore her in on the spot a master mason. That was one of the Saint Legers of Doneraile.
 

Mr. Tea

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Looks like a cool thread - I've just skimmed it so far - but I'm going to have to pull Rich up for his mangled story about Newton and the needle. He didn't stick a needle in the centre of his eye, which obviously would have just blinded him; he put a knitting needle behind his eye, in order to distort his eyeball and observe how it affected his vision.
 
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Linebaugh

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The Masons just popped up a bunch of times in Ulysses. Apparently Bloom was, or is, one,

-- He's in the craft, he said.

-- Do you tell me so? Davy Byrne said.

-- Very much so, Nosey Flynn said. Ancient free and accepted order. Light, life and love, by God. They give him a leg up. I was told that by a, well, I won't say who.

-- Is that a fact?

-- O, it's a fine order, Nosey Flynn said. They stick to you when you're down. I know a fellow was trying to get into it, but they're as close as damn it. By God they did right to keep the women out of it.

Davy Byrne smiledyawnednodded all in one:

-- Iiiiiichaaaaaaach!

-- There was one woman, Nosey Flynn said, hid herself in a clock to find out what they do be doing. But be damned but they smelt her out and swore her in on the spot a master mason. That was one of the Saint Legers of Doneraile.
Ive seen some speculate that baseball is masonic ritual


 

IdleRich

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I mean it's so fucking boring that it can't really pass as entertainment or sport so there must be some kind of hidden explanation for its continued existence.
 

Linebaugh

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muser

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Evil Eye in the Mexican and Central American Culture

Belief in the evil eye, or mal de ojo, is a culture bound syndrome in traditional Mexican and Central American culture. According to the superstition, this illness results from the perception that some people possess innate strength, the power to harm those without this advantage. The weak included women, elderly, babies and young children, while men or wealthy and politically influential individuals make up the strong. Moreover, it was strongly feared that when a powerful person stares at a weak individual, the eyes of the strong person drain the power and soul from the weak one regardless of intentions. In these cultures, the condition can also occur when an individual stares at something or someone with admiration. The person observed may become sick and a valued object, unless touched shortly after a person with evil eyes appreciated it, may become broken. Reported afflictions by those the evil eye is intended for comprise of inconsolable crying, fitful sleep, diarrhea, vomiting, and fever.
The traditional cure for mal de ojo in rural Mexico involves the practices of a curandero. A curandero, which are shamans or traditional folk healers, use a raw egg to treat this illness. By passing a raw egg over the inflicted victim the negative power the person with the evil eye possesses is absorbed. The egg is then covered with a straw cross that is to be positioned beneath their head while they slumber. The next morning the curandero examines the form of the egg by cracking it to determine if their efforts resulted in success for the sufferer. The shape of the yolk can also convey the gender of the enemy. Another exercise recommended to treat the symptoms of this illness and return the soul is for the strong person to move their hand over the forehead of the weakened individual.

The superstition of the evil eye is important in Mexican culture because it explicates how disease is perceived in their culture, that people can becomes victims by the destructive behavior of others. In addition, that fear in their culture may arise from the envy of others.
My niece had this done when she was born.
 

IdleRich

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Eyes and eggs in the, er, Story of the Eye as well of course. Probably should have thought of that before.
 

luka

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What conclusions have you drawn from this research Limburger? How have you tied the heads together. Give us the master thesis.
 

IdleRich

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Eyes and eggs in the, er, Story of the Eye as well of course. Probably should have thought of that before.
And in one of McCarthy's Border Trilogy there is a scene with an eye hanging out of its sockets and some eggs which is surely a reference to Bataille.
 
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