The Natural State

catalog

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another fairly universal example might be the need to properly dispose of and mourn for our dead. that's "natural" in my view
theres a line in ulysses somewhere about humans being the only creatures apart from ants to bury their dead
 

version

Who loves ya, baby?
Yes, that's because it is. I think the actual distinction being made here's between human and animal.
 

version

Who loves ya, baby?
No, because humans aren't doing anything inhuman/unnatural by living the way they currently do. If anything, it's more human. The stuff like that primal movements vid on the first page is an attempt to head in a less human direction.
 
if you define what's natural to mean what exists, then everything is trivially natural
trivial but important point to realise, and the only indisputable response. Once accepted you can have the debate understanding the distinction is very ideological, focused on desired outcomes, hopes and fears and like you say the main question of what does it mean to be human? Does this thing, this behaviour threaten my idea of what it means to be human?

The natural also spans a lot more, so more simple stuff like what is common, what is ancient, what is predictable, increasingly what occurs without human interference?

but underlying the word is the acknowledgement that somewhere along the line, the fall, we fucked up badly and are spiralling out of control. Unless we get back to nature of course!
 

vimothy

yurp
if its trivial it can hardly be other than indisputable, and therefore what's natural is everything and the distinction is nonexistent and not ideological at all.

if, on the other hand, the distinction is ideological then what's natural for humans is not trivial - it's a meaningful question about which one can disagree
 

luka

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totally stark bollock naked in there. water going all over my naked body.
 

catalog

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It's possible you'll truly break thru to the godhead psychedelia if you go to a nudist beach. That's one of the signifies, I'm sure of it
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
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It's possible you'll truly break thru to the godhead psychedelia if you go to a nudist beach. That's one of the signifies, I'm sure of it
Perhaps it's the key to seeing through one's third eye.
 
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