The Seniority of the Rachis

luka

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Not only do you thoroughly confuse yourself you confuse everybody else too. Stay away from theory and science and anything else you think might prop up your religious visions and provide some authority for your claims. Rely solely on yourself and your ability to make it up and your problems with communication will be solved.
 

luka

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Did Mohammed scrabble around looking for precedents in science to bolster his claims? Did he fuck, and look what he started. That should be a lesson for you.
 

luka

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Speak directly to the people clearly and concisely and with the authority of revelation.
 

constant escape

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Yeah a lot of that does bog down the communication, and feedback from folks here has helped out tremendously, in terms of moving away from a lot of the denser language. Still have a ways to go, unfortunately.
 

luka

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It's just a crutch for your insecurities but I think you are ready to discard it.
 

constant escape

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Someone else needs to come around to speak to the people. That's quite a bit of energy one needs to harness to do that. Unless a systematic means of harvesting/cultivating that energy can be established...
 

luka

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Well, we're working on it. You'll know if and when we crack that nut.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Well wouldn't you say that science currently occupies the kind of throne that clear-cut religions used to? Perhaps my scope is limited here, but it seems science is the central dogma, and thus that is the sensibility to cater to - if for no other reason than to mutate it.
 

luka

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Well wouldn't you say that science currently occupies the kind of throne that clear-cut religions used to? Perhaps my scope is limited here, but it seems science is the central dogma, and thus that is the sensibility to cater to - if for no other reason than to mutate it.
i don't think so. not for me and you who have no facility for that way of thinking working and discoursing. our job is to draw down the revelations from the heavens and elsewhere becasue we are religious leaders and let the scientists fall into line
 

constant escape

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i don't think so. not for me and you who have no facility for that way of thinking working and discoursing. our job is to draw down the revelations from the heavens and elsewhere becasue we are religious leaders and let the scientists fall into line
But why not do that and subsume the scientific impetus in the process? This won't work without science.
 

luka

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you have to have some sense of who you are and where you fit in. what role you are supposed to play. for example i am
culture-leader. hierophant. world-bard.
 

luka

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But why not do that and subsume the scientific impetus in the process? This won't work without science.
even if that is true, which i doubt, its not your job to do the science because you have no talent for or undersranding of science.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
even if that is true, which i doubt, its not your job to do the science because you have no talent for or undersranding of science.
As true as that is, it doesn't mean that this project cannot be rendered compatible with science. All that needs to be understood about science, here, is its philosophic dimensions, which is much more accessible in my case than the actual work/method of science. Science is the conservative, rearguard to your nebulous vanguard - one without the other will just carry us to its pole, rather than keep us levitating at the threshold between them.
 
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