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tbf i was being hyperbolic with that remark just to rile some heads, I don't think ambient is necessarily nazi, more cosmologically conservative - in the mould of organised religion (otherwise I'd have to delete my biosphere albums!) - which can in some instances interface with nazism of course. But ambient generally fails at its stated purpose, rather than overpowering the noise of capitalism, it naturalises the noise.
they aren't obsessed with history but with metaphysics and hard germanic ultra-lutheranism.
padraig (u.s.)
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solid observation that - immediately makes one think of relevant stretches of Xenakis, Stockhausen
Eno has a map is the territory literalism about him, has to explain everything. has to explain creativity.
before and after science. before and after flowcharts mapping out creativity. oblique strategies for design students.
as I said, a profoundly depressing way to approach art, and life
padraig (u.s.)
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relates to what I was talking about with Plato in the other thread - if the ideal soul is moderate in all things, is it not excessive in moderation?
that's something I wondered about reading it, anyway
in that case he's talking about moderation more in terms of negation, sacrifice - excising all weaknesses to reach an ideal
in the lineage of tasteful art it comes across more like - cowardice isn't quite the word, as it implies a conscious flinching away. timidity, maybe.
it's the root of the complaint against self-conscious ambient and all its derivatives - never going for it, just this staid endless hum
like always - make "good" art, make "bad art", just make interesting art
i.e. Basquiat looks like shit up next to a Rembrandt or whatever, but Basquiat is among the handful of greatest painters to ever live
padraig (u.s.)
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I know, it surprised me, Eno of all things, who would've thought
nice to see we still have the ability to occasionally surprise each other after all these years
whereas droid's Enoism is easy to explain once you learn/realize his first true, formative years love was, and is, 90s ambient techno
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My ambient techno tastes generally go for the more detroit/nyc electro influenced things. I'm not so much into, uh, what was that, ultramarine?
Even b12 after a while I find they are too much indebted to Derrick May and not enough the 80s black american electronic sounds in general, so their music eventually ends up sounding more British than detroit. it's something you will understand if you listen to dubs of chicago/new york house tracks, there was always an disembodied abstract element to even the poppiest music coming out of America that time which some of the UK techno producers didn't really quite get.
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