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padraig (u.s.)
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credit where it's due, "scenius" is a solid concept
bit of an ironic laff to have it come from a person who's been so touted by himself and others as a singular genius, but there you go
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I should have specified as list of Eno era art rock weirdos who you think were undeservedly overlooked because of the man
padraig (u.s.)
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well tbc, I don't think that's really how it works or what I was claiming, that he's personally responsible for people being overlooked
just that people were doing similar things better/more interesting, or at least comparably, in the same time frame
maybe the Berlin Trilogy and krautrock but that's Bowie and Eno both specialize in
taking other peoples good ideas and popularizing them - the worth or "validity" of that is its own argument
padraig (u.s.)
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having said that
some overlooked, some not, depending how you define "overlooked" but something like
Czukay, Dinger, Faust collectively, Conny Plank (the true genius producer), Christian Vander, Franco Battiato, Takashi Mizutani, Takehisa Kosugi, J.A. Seazer, electric Miles (Cosey/Lucas era), Cale for Church of Anthrax, Pere Ubu, Suicide, Peter Hamill (VDGG only not terrible English prog band), Wire, Yoko Ono, William Onyeabor
trying to mostly keep it to people who comparably incorporated electronics into an expansive definition of "rock music"
or were just powerful, singular visionary weirdos like Vander, Mizutani or Yoko
some overlooked, some not, depending how you define "overlooked" but something like
Czukay, Dinger, Faust collectively, Conny Plank (the true genius producer), Christian Vander, Franco Battiato, Takashi Mizutani, Takehisa Kosugi, J.A. Seazer, electric Miles (Cosey/Lucas era), Cale for Church of Anthrax, Pere Ubu, Suicide, Peter Hamill (VDGG only not terrible English prog band), Wire, Yoko Ono, William Onyeabor
trying to mostly keep it to people who comparably incorporated electronics into an expansive definition of "rock music"
or were just powerful, singular visionary weirdos like Vander, Mizutani or Yoko
padraig (u.s.)
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it's been awhile since I reacquainted myself with French 70s avant-rock so I'm probably forgetting a couple there - Richard Pinhas maybe
for just guitar you could add people like Achim Reichel, Gunter Schickert, Gottsching (til he gets too Fripp), Franco Falsini, etc
there's same point where "art rock" bleeds into post-punk, but the Chrome boys if they make the cutoff
for just guitar you could add people like Achim Reichel, Gunter Schickert, Gottsching (til he gets too Fripp), Franco Falsini, etc
there's same point where "art rock" bleeds into post-punk, but the Chrome boys if they make the cutoff
padraig (u.s.)
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for ambient Eno his real peers aren't rock people but composers (leaving aside yr foot in both camp types like Branca and Arthur Russell)
the minimalists and people incorporating early electronics - often the same people
Reich, Riley, Henry Flynt, Alvin Lucier, Charlemagne Palestine, etc
and of course the huge looming influence of John Cage on the concept of something like Oblique Strategies
the minimalists and people incorporating early electronics - often the same people
Reich, Riley, Henry Flynt, Alvin Lucier, Charlemagne Palestine, etc
and of course the huge looming influence of John Cage on the concept of something like Oblique Strategies
padraig (u.s.)
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in the truly "overlooked category"
a ton of NWW list type records - whether literally on the list or not
overlapping with Creel Pone type 70s analogue electronics - again, whether literally on Creel Pone (tho, everything is really) or not
and not overlapping as much but related, non-Western (including Japan) electronic pioneers
i.e. besides Onyeabor, people like Francis Bebey, Mammane Sani, Gökçen Kaynatan, etc
a ton of NWW list type records - whether literally on the list or not
overlapping with Creel Pone type 70s analogue electronics - again, whether literally on Creel Pone (tho, everything is really) or not
and not overlapping as much but related, non-Western (including Japan) electronic pioneers
i.e. besides Onyeabor, people like Francis Bebey, Mammane Sani, Gökçen Kaynatan, etc
padraig (u.s.)
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so, there you go
padraig (u.s.)
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Kraftwerk, obviously, tho particularly hard to call them overlooked. I don't rate Cluster or Harmonia (with or without Eno).
obviously a whole other world of people messing around with synthesizers, rhythm machines, etc in dance music and Black American music generally
obviously a whole other world of people messing around with synthesizers, rhythm machines, etc in dance music and Black American music generally
padraig (u.s.)
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anyway, many things going on in the 70s that I would place high above Eno is the point
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Brian Eno : On Some Faraway Beach
Brian Eno : On Some Faraway Beach · Playlist · 573 songs · 1 likes
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This is the playlist I made while reading a biography of eno a few years ago.
On Land
Discreet Music
Becalmed (and some others off Another Green World)
Eno and Fripp stuff
Eno/Cluster stuff
Some Bowie stuff (subterraneans)
WashYourHands
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He’s neither the devil nor christ, just a bald bloke from East Anglia who occasionally captured transcendence through sound
He ripped off DikMik if you want to stir the pot.
He ripped off DikMik if you want to stir the pot.
Leo
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still love his first four albums. I'd had little to no exposure to non-mainstream music at the time, so in contrast they were pretty groundbreaking to my young impressionable ears. stopped paying attention after "before and after science", never bought into the ambient stuff.
"oblique strategies" sums up so much about Eno: both conceptually interesting and borderline infuriatingly eyerolling. .
"oblique strategies" sums up so much about Eno: both conceptually interesting and borderline infuriatingly eyerolling. .
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