wake up lads its time to talk about sin

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm into it. Many is the time I've pulled my pants up after a four hour cocaine fuelled porn wankathon and caught a glimpse at the bestial evil of misdirected lust.

Sin you might say is the actions of the unencumbered ego. Which is why indulging in it places us in isolation from the world/others/God.

Very into it. I'm going to get a hairshirt off Amazon.
 

Simon silverdollarcircle

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I heard some lapsed religious types talk about the intertwining of sinning and being close to God. Something about how in the act of sinning you feel closer to God than usual.

I guess it's like being mean to the girl you really like in primary school, as that's the only thing that can create any kind of dynamic between you?

I don't know though. Never been religious, don't understand it
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Watched a drama about Catholic notable Lord Longford and his assisting of the repentant (?) Myra Hindley. There's a great bit at the end where Myra is dying and Longford visits her in jail, and she tells him that what they did on the Moors was a religious experience. Evil is a religious experience.

Porno wankathons can be a sort of religious experience because you gain a conception of the depths to which lust can drag you - and of how much further it can drag others down. Not really caring about the exploitation and misery that goes into porn cos you're currently horny is the thin end of a fat wedge, the end of which is dripping in the blood of the innocents.

So let us pray.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Watched a drama about Catholic notable Lord Longford and his assisting of the repentant (?) Myra Hindley. There's a great bit at the end where Myra is dying and Longford visits her in jail, and she tells him that what they did on the Moors was a religious experience. Evil is a religious experience.

Have you read Huysmans' La-bas? This bit really reminds me of Gilles de Rais. (Who was a real guy, but the book goes into some detail about his crimes and the possible motivation for them.)

So let us pray.

And, indeed, spray.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
"Dante, however, was not merely a simple lover of excellence: he was also a keen hater of wickedness, one that took the moral world tragically and wished to heighten the distinctions he felt into something absolute and infinite. Now any man who is enragé in his preferences will probably say, with Mohammed, Tertullian, and Calvin, that good is dishonoured if those who contemn it can go scot-free, and never repent of their negligence; that the more horrible the consequences of evil-doing, the more tolerable the presence of evil-doing is in the world; and that the everlasting shrieks and contortions of the damned alone will make it possible for the saints to sit quiet, and be convinced that there is perfect harmony in the universe. On this principle, in the famous inscription which Dante places over the gate of hell, we read that primal love, as well as justice and power, established that torture-house; primal love, that is, of that good which, by the extreme punishment of those who scorn it, is honoured, vindicated, and made to shine like the sun.The damned are damned for the glory of God.

This doctrine, I cannot help thinking, is a great disgrace to human nature. It shows how desperate, at heart, is the folly of an egotistic or anthropocentric philosophy. This philosophy begins by assuring us that everything is obviously created to serve our needs; it then maintains that everything serves our ideals; and in the end, it reveals that everything serves our blind hatreds and superstitious qualms. Because my instinct taboos something, the whole universe, with insane intensity, shall taboo it for ever. This infatuation was inherited by Dante, and it was not uncongenial to his bitter and intemperate spleen. Nevertheless, he saw beyond it at times. Like many other Christian seers, he betrays here and there an esoteric view of rewards and punishments, which makes them simply symbols for the intrinsic quality of good and evil ways. The punishment, he then seems to say, is nothing added; it is what the passion itself pursues; it is a fulfilment, horrifying the soul that desired it."
 

luka

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What we e learned then is that if you grow up being sodomised by priests and beaten by nuns you will come to understand sin as just part of a control system designed to subjugate you but if you grew up in modernity in the permissive society you end up feeling the loss of the concept of sin and spend all your life wanking like a chimp.
 

luka

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The pop science/psychology understanding of dopamine hits and reward system hacking is interesting to me. People have come to understand that short term rewards preclude long term achievement and are trying to find ways to get off that hamster wheel of looped time. Binge remorse binge remorse
 

luka

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I think Jack is right. You need an awareness of the demonic forces, lust, greed, envy, wrath etc and how they can overwhelm flimsy moral 'convictions' and standards of behaviour. You need to be able to distinguish demonic energy and wicked delicious force of it.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
The pop science/psychology understanding of dopamine hits and reward system hacking is interesting to me. People have come to understand that short term rewards preclude long term achievement and are trying to find ways to get off that hamster wheel of looped time. Binge remorse binge remorse
Hence #NoFap
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
So does the shadow exist within the home country, only unexpressed, as well as in the colonies (where it strides about in the nude)?

I suppose we're talking about a sort of Jungian shadow here? The dark side within us all etc.
 
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