Lockdown 2.0

version

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It's difficult to gauge the threat. It doesn't seem too likely that I'll get it atm or that I'll die if I do get it, but the chance of long term health issues is a worry. I don't fancy being stuck with fucked lungs for the rest of my life.
 

version

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How would you stop a corporation becoming powerful enough to take on the role of government? Wouldn't they inevitably start to build their own police forces etc?
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
@version Good to get out, just as long as you’ve not a busker. They’ve always got a hat.

Try and flex your routines. I walked the last lockdown down and saved the rest for family.

There are opportunities here.
 

martin

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It's difficult to gauge the threat. It doesn't seem too likely that I'll get it atm or that I'll die if I do get it, but the chance of long term health issues is a worry. I don't fancy being stuck with fucked lungs for the rest of my life.
That's my worry too. I'd rather there was a higher chance of death vs. recovery/immunity with no side-effects, and take that gamble, than face the possibility of life on a respirator. Or wheezing, totally knackered, after a 10-minute walk.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Really need to get a handle on the relative risks of these bad outcomes compared to other risks, most of which very rarely penetrate our conscious awareness.
 

linebaugh

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vast majority of people on the street wearing masks, people seem to have accepted it. low-grade frustration and mild anxiety seem about right, coupled with being grumpily resigned to a lost summer.

where are there packed bars? they just started to allow 25% capacity indoors around me.
Texas is where I'm seeing it. So backwoods in a sense, but the bars aren't dives and patrons are city dwelling, 9-5 office types.
Where I'm at a little east we have 25% capacity but the very nature of that restriction is slippery. Places still get pretty full, though there is no shoulder to shoulder rubbing.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Really need to get a handle on the relative risks of these bad outcomes compared to other risks, most of which very rarely penetrate our conscious awareness.
I feel there's a pronoun missing at the start here...

Apparently 300k people have been ill for at least a month, and some 60k for at least three months: https://www.theguardian.com/society...ong-covid-for-more-than-three-months-uk-study
UK official total cases is of the order of 400k, although an antibody prevalence of 6% indicates that about ten times that many have actually had the virus.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I wipe down the packaging of any food I buy with disinfectant, wash my hands a lot, don't really go out anywhere. I've seen one friend since Christmas Eve and I've only seen him once.
What? How can that be possible? Since Christmas Eve? But lockdown didn't start until June did it? What's going on, have I lost track of time or something? What year is it?

I do feel sorry for all the young people who've had their dreams cancelled. Like, let's imagine, for example, a desperately poor coal miners daughter from a poor country who worked as a child prostitute to get through night school and won a scholarship to Havard and now she can't take it up cos of coronavirus.
There must be millions of similar really sad stories.
This is totally it. My cousin was supposed to get married this year. It's weird she's had an insanely bad year, she's really sensible and together and so on but earlier this year she had a total nervous breakdown. It was crazy, it was one of those ones you read about where she started talking in strange accents and stuff and she went into a mental home and they were really worried if she would recover at all, never mind for the wedding. But she did (typically enough, she just always seems to manage stuff) but then they couldn't have the wedding cos of Covid, so it's pushed back to next year. And then her fiance got covid too... I think he's ok-ish now but I still can't believe MixedBiscuits did that to him.,
Additionally her wedding was supposed to be a big family get together and loads of us who hadn't seen each other for ages were gonna meet up at the wedding (of course) but then go on a holiday together to Orkney where a load of that side of the family ultimately originate from and of course that's gone. That's not such a big deal of course but kinda lumped in with the above in my mind.
Also, we got a friend here, he works in a bar, but he has this kinda one-man-band thing where it's kinda like footwork mixed with metal and he goes on stage in a pink bikini (it was funny cos he played a gig at this place here kinda like the ICA I guess and his gig was on the stairs for some reason and he was crawling around the floor half-naked and stuff fellating the mic etc you know the drill - and I was standing to this really like conservative looking older guy - typical Portugues type kinda gruff working man etc and he turned to me really proudly and said "That's my son") - but the point is he'd got this tour booked of the US playing gigs in NY and Portland and several other places - like a total one in a lifetime experience (I think he's 26 or something - he's got the worse haircut I've ever seen) and then it was in danger and then it was cancelld and then it changed from his dream thing to this battle with the airline to get some of his money back. And that's just gone. I mean, we had an event booked which was maybe the biggest thing we've ever done at a large venue from midnight to midday bringing a name DJ from the UK and stuff and that was cancelled - but we can re-schedule, but his thing will never re-align with all the bars able to book him like that, in fact some of the places he was supposed to play have gone tits up so it's just gone. Before hand I was genuinely getting vicariously excited for him and all the adventures he would have and so on... and then I almost felt his actual sadness.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
But here the most annoying thing is that it never fully went away. I'm sure I've said but we've had this stupid drinking curfew from 8pm all the time. And what gets me is the arbitrary nature of the rules. I think you lot are getting it now with a 10pm curfew. Sure make people social distance. But what I don't get her is that you can do almost what you want until 19.59 - and then you can't even buy cigarettes. Tell me how not letting people buy cigarettes in a service station after 8pm when they stop to fill their car protects against covid?
Also, why can you totally ignore the rules if you put a plate of chips on the table?
Like my girlfriend was walking down the street with a friend who had done some grocery shopping and in her bag she happened to have a bottle of wine - and this policeman came up to her and seized the bottle from out of her bag and confiscated it (I'm pretty sure he's not allowed to do this but what was she supposed to say or do?)- she was in Graca, right in front of a load of restaurants where loads of people were buying and drinking wine three feet away from her.
So do what you like if it's before 8pm and then after you're banned from doing anything... except if you're a restaurant you're un-banned again. Oh also if it's a sports association apparently. And also these rules only apply in Lisbon... but when we were in Tomar you could do what you want even all the time even though the whole town was filled with French tourists. And, on top of that, they apply the rules differently in different parts of town. Cos after our party was banned last week we went to my friend's restaurant where they were doing pretty much the same thing but they're in the special place so they can get away with it - and the place across the road was even more blatant with a dj advertised on a sandwich board outside. What the fuck is going on, it makes no sense?
So it's one thing to have rules and feel that you're obeying them because they are at least an attempt to improve the common good - but if the rules are nonsensical and literally contradictory and you don't feel that doing them is helping anyone?
One thing is that now this curfew thing has hit the UK and now we're finally getting all the outrage we should have had here.

I just saw this one. It's definitely not "only in the UK".

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IdleRich

IdleRich
The UK seem to have copied the rules for their new lockdown from Portugal - albeit made a bit clearer and less contradictory (and it's rare you can say that right)

 
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