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Desire perhaps being figured as the fuel of "causal intention", a sort of restlessness that somnambulistically propels the psyche.

edit: propels it toward some kind of surplus value or whatnot. Hence all of the confused assertions that the forces themselves are capitalistic. Which isn't to say that the psychic experience necessarily reduces to a capitalistic mechanism. The subject may be subjected to these forces, hence the term "subject", but such a subjection does not necessarily seem ineluctable. Desubjectification in this sense is seemingly the task, at least partially, of many if not all enlightenment projects.
 
I assumed the elroy idea was more about acknowledging some form of moral good in following or maybe channelling desire and fantasy, what your body and mind is telling you through these feelings, signals .... cast way these ideas of original sin and embrace your animalistic narcissitic energies rather than trying to block them
 

luka

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cast way these ideas of original sin and embrace your animalistic narcissitic energies rather than trying to block them

given it's ellroy i think this is the safest interpretation. the idea that our pansy conscience is stopping us from getting what we truly desire.
 

luka

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there's a split created, a bifuraction of the current. we want what we want but our conscience is putting the brakes on, stopping us from affirming our own desires
 
The manager in our head is not opposed to desire of course, the conscience wants something too (be good, follow the rules, please the master) and we get pleasure from abiding

But the problem conflicting desires, poles of comfort - adventure, life- death etc which keep energy flowing. im not sure full reconciliation is possible.
 

luka

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yes i think Ellroy is working from a simpler model in which what 'we' want is 'money, and pussy, and dominance over others.
 
I want him to be right, to have found the key. I don't want to feel guilty anymore. I want be be spiritually aligned
 

luka

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my assumption is that there are irresolvable tensions and contradictions built into life on earth.
but whether those operate moment to moment, or even have any relevance at a moment to moment level is
another matter isnt it.
 

luka

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these problems arise when we try to think about what we 'beleive' or 'value' but we often resolve these tensions in the moment by acting, by affirming through action, one path and not another
 
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