The Teaching Machine.

DLaurent

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I only partly understand this thread, did Festinger, Milgram, Ron Jones etc at uni but the me the most basic learning mechanism is being one of Pavlov's dogs.

If you have you on one end and intelligence agencies on the other end of internet then they can use trauma punishments and psychological techniques to create a master/slave or become your handler.

Anything you input into the system either gets churned out as a reward or punishment.

Through use of double bind psychology it doesn't matter if you do anything positive or negative, you will still get either a reward or punishment.

The effect is gaslighting.

But due to the master/slave relationship it's difficult to just ignore your master and the result is mental disintegration.

That is what having 'delusional disorder' does to you.

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pattycakes_

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The other side of that coin is when you've been gaslit by a narcissistic family your whole life even though deep down you know the truth (i.e. The opposite of what they want it to be) you start to fall into their traps and fulfill the roles. And sadly you tend to end up a manipulative narcissist yourself. If only society was more equipt to deal with that sort of stuff and try to pull people out of those thought patterns
 

DLaurent

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I thought I was either being recruited or could get away with murder should I wish. I made threats and then eventually turned up at Northcliffe House on Kensington High Street (6 hour round trip) and then got arrested and sectioned.
 

pattycakes_

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Did it actually cross your mind that you might go that far? Which is of course miles away from going ahead with the intention
 

DLaurent

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No I was thinking about things I could do online. As everything that happened to me was online. Every step I took online led to a counteraction so I had to think carefully about everything I did. I couldn't take my eyes off Mail Online. The way I describe it to my psychiatrist, if there's a burglar in your house you want to know what's going on. But it didn't matter if I did something to fight back online, I launched a DDOS attack on GCHQ that led to a bad real world event happening, but even when I did normal things online, real world things still happened.
 

DannyL

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As a therapist @DannyL, would you say narcissism is one of the harder things to pull people out of? Have you ever seen it done?
I don't have the experience to say, I'm afraid.

Depends also on the level of fuckedupness caused by those behaviours and if that's providing a motivation for change.
 
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suspended

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nowadays theyd just assume you were filming something for tik tok and studiously ignore you
Participants of everyday interaction, in other words, even if they intend to just be ordinary, will face the problem of ‘doing being ordinary’ (Sacks, 1984). To do ‘being ordinary’ cannot be accomplished by attending to a number of preset focal points, but requires participants to associate activities with expectations while behaving in a manner that maintains the impression that nothing unusual is happening – regardless of whatever actually is happening. Harvey Sacks (1984) has observed that this general tendency of accommodation tends to be learned by heart to the extent that participants maintain it under the most extraordinary circumstances: The plane is now in the midst of being hijacked, and the guy reports, ‘I thought to myself, we just had a Polish hijacking a month ago and they’re already making a movie of it.’
 

luka

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one of the reasons i enjoyed working in coffee shops was tweaking expectations, going off script etc. its such a structured and formalised interaction
 

suspended

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No I was thinking about things I could do online. As everything that happened to me was online. Every step I took online led to a counteraction so I had to think carefully about everything I did. I couldn't take my eyes off Mail Online. The way I describe it to my psychiatrist, if there's a burglar in your house you want to know what's going on. But it didn't matter if I did something to fight back online, I launched a DDOS attack on GCHQ that led to a bad real world event happening, but even when I did normal things online, real world things still happened.
Wait, what? Unpack please.
 

DLaurent

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Here's a fake plane hijacking. Puget Sound. :LOL: :eek:



When I did a DDOS attack on GCHQ, only a very basic one on their contact form, Mac Miller died of an overdose the next day. I'm not saying it was another assassination but I had just googled Hackintosh and my life followed that pattern for several years. Gaslighted by someone.
 

DLaurent

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Avicii died the day after I typed a comment "A lot of police are massive clubbers" on a Mail Online article. Not being facetious although it is morbid. I have 3 years of daily 'synchronicities'.
 
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