Going it alone

[version]

Ice Cube.

 

[version]

@WashYourHands
Kirk solo or with the Cabs?

 

[john eden]

Who’s the field recordings guy who was in the Cabs? He’s a good shout for this thread.

 

[woops]

chris watson

 

[version]

Outside the Circle of Fire's a good one of his. He's got everything on Bandcamp now, I think.

 

[sus]

Nile Rodgers telling the story of writing "Let's Dance" is a perfect example of the "solo artist" as collaborative effort

Bowie has the basic, core idea which he takes to a relevant expert to help him

this is a weird one because it's not clear whether Nile's final arrangement has anything to do with the original Bowie riff, it's just part of the breadcrumbs to get him where he got

 

[WashYourHands]

@WashYourHands
Kirk solo or with the Cabs?

you cunt, can't it be Kirkuum?

 

[martin]

I loved Johnny Thunders so much, but every time he went completely off on his own tangent it was kinda lame...at least compared to his stuff with the Dolls or Heartbreakers (or at least with Walter Lure co-writing).

Regarding earlier posts: "Are You Experienced?" pisses over everything Black Flag ever recorded. And Henry Rollins is just a total embarrassment, whichever way you slice it up.

 

[boxedjoy]

I've never got Bowie, he reminds me of Lady Gaga. Both chasing trends in mainstream pop and dressing them up in fashion and provocative statements without any true sonic auteurship.

 

[linebaugh]

I probably like wings more than Beatles

 

[luka]

I've never got Bowie, he reminds me of Lady Gaga. Both chasing trends in mainstream pop and dressing them up in fashion and provocative statements without any true sonic auteurship.

most people here think Bowie was a pox on music so don't worry youre not alone. like the beatles its not music per se, its caberet.

 

[IdleRich]

I've never got Bowie, he reminds me of Lady Gaga. Both chasing trends in mainstream pop and dressing them up in fashion and provocative statements without any true sonic auteurship.

Gaga does remind me of Bowie but without the tunes.

 

[version]

I probably like wings more than Beatles

 

[sus]

Contrarian Takes for 100, pleease

 

[sus]

if you know English and you've listened to a Bowie song you know he can do things with words, and that's all that needa be said

 

[sus]

I can't believe there are people on this forum who think pop music is about "sonic auteurship" and not like, cult of personality, manipulation of fashion, etc

 

[luka]

we dont care what it's 'about'. like we have to be some sort of impartial judging panel awarding marks out of ten.

 

[boxedjoy]

He didn't have the personality though - he was a transparent hack, a bandwagon follower who painted himself as an auteur when he was nothing of the sort.

You don't have to be a sonic auteur to be a great pop star. You have to set out your own terms and then succeed within them. Bowie was at great pains to let you know he was different from anyone else, but at the core he was a prog rock guy who jumped to disco, and to me that's why he's completely unengaging - there's no sense of conviction or captivation or singularity.

 

[boxedjoy]

Also most of the music is just boring rubbish isn't it.

 

[boxedjoy]

If you look at someone like Prince, who created their own world and completely inhabited it, someone who seemed driven by their own vision, uncompromising and full of distinct character and urgency, there's no contest.

There was a thread recently about this, where we spoke about how commitment to an aesthetic can be just as or more important than the aesthetic itself, and I think that's the key part of capital-p Pop.