Was This Song Good & Important?
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Benny Bunter
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BIPP crosses the line for me , just too silly. I associated nothing more to say with the rinse fm house pop stuff that was around at the time so I liked it
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
great tune that I listened to a bunch when a first heard it
rest of album doesn't compare unfortunately, kinda stuck halfway way between post-nuum dance musics and avant pop iirc
but that's a corker. the Madonna recontextualization is obvious but still on-point, and well executed, and the obviousness is prob part of the point.
bit surprised anyone familiar the chipmunk helium vocals of ardkore-jungle-2step would mind them here, tho they're not a 1-to-1 matchup tbf
BIPP is pretty good as well, not amazing but I'd much rather listen to it than anything Rustie or the purple crew or etc ever did
shiels
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agree with all that. seen her in fabric and felt the same
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I didn't know she was Scottish (or English? I'm not clear) thought she was American but that makes sense
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
yeah like it's cool to see someone making gender-challenging avant-pop with at a high production value/skill level
but it's a fine line to walk, if you're gonna go pop - songs instead of tracks etc - you really gotta nail the pop
I applaud the effort but I don't really want to listen to most of it
but it's a fine line to walk, if you're gonna go pop - songs instead of tracks etc - you really gotta nail the pop
I applaud the effort but I don't really want to listen to most of it
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
lol idk if I said that. tbh I didn't then and haven't since followed this stuff closely enough to really know either way.
I was gonna say that I think all the maximalist/purple/etc stuff has aged terribly
tho as I think someone said I it made more sense in the moment, unlike say future garage which was always clearly an embarrassment
it is kind of interesting to contextualize it as the influence of IDM, or at least IDM concepts/techniques, seeping into pop
given how antithesis of pop and dance music as pop IDM was (prob moresoe in fanbase than actual producers tho?)
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
or I guess IDM always recontextualized avant-pop music, from drill n bass to that BOC refix of "Midas Touch" to etc
but you can't really imagine 90s IDM types seeking out careers in the world of actual pop like HudMo, Charlie XCX, etc have done
but you can't really imagine 90s IDM types seeking out careers in the world of actual pop like HudMo, Charlie XCX, etc have done
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
it seems to have the same relationship to pop music as post-punk, but digital instead of analog
trance can never be honest though. that's the point. both Evian and Senni miss this. its not supposed to be reinterpreted because that assumes it is dead, but it isn't in Russia and eastern Europe for instance. They can fill a trance gig 50000 tomorrow no problem.
Similarly with prog house/housey trance, that shit is huge in South America, Argentina, India etc. That's my problem with these revisionist takes from people like senni. They should just oh I dunno, move to Moscow or Buenos Ares or something.
evian christ talking about his encounter with kanye is quite funny https://web.archive.org/web/2014072...2014/04/06/read-our-evian-christ-cover-story/
"YEEZUS WAS FINISHED WITH A FLURRY OF LAST-MINUTE, Rick Rubin–guru’d activity—including the random call Leary received from Kanye West’s engineer: “ ‘Kanye’s working on something,’ ” Leary recalls. “ ‘We need rap beats. The blueprint is really experimental. A lot of distortion. Think Nine Inch Nails and contemporary electronics. You’ve got two days.’ ”
He quickly “pulled some stuff out of the bag” to send, and after a week of no response and diminishing hope, an e-mail arrived: “Kanye loves these. He wants to keep all of them.” Leary submitted the files, and after another lengthy silence, a 2 a.m. e-mail offered an invitation just as Leary was ready to shut down his laptop for the night: “Kanye wants you to come to Paris immediately. There’s a flight at 7 a.m. We need you to get on that. We’ll sort everything out, don’t worry about it.”
“We just hung out there for a couple of days working on stuff,” he says. “He was playing me stuff that he had for the record already, like the Daft Punk songs, early versions of those. He showed me around his flat and was just a really nice, warm, welcoming dude.” Working with Kanye was the first time Leary had ever stepped inside a recording studio.
“Outside of having just met this world-famous megastar who I grew up watching videos of, it quickly becomes professional,” he says. “You’re a producer; he’s an artist. You have a shared goal, which is to make a sick electronic album. You get on with it very quickly. It just becomes about music. It doesn’t matter about levels of fame…. Not to say it wasn’t a weird day—a very weird day.”"
He quickly “pulled some stuff out of the bag” to send, and after a week of no response and diminishing hope, an e-mail arrived: “Kanye loves these. He wants to keep all of them.” Leary submitted the files, and after another lengthy silence, a 2 a.m. e-mail offered an invitation just as Leary was ready to shut down his laptop for the night: “Kanye wants you to come to Paris immediately. There’s a flight at 7 a.m. We need you to get on that. We’ll sort everything out, don’t worry about it.”
“We just hung out there for a couple of days working on stuff,” he says. “He was playing me stuff that he had for the record already, like the Daft Punk songs, early versions of those. He showed me around his flat and was just a really nice, warm, welcoming dude.” Working with Kanye was the first time Leary had ever stepped inside a recording studio.
“Outside of having just met this world-famous megastar who I grew up watching videos of, it quickly becomes professional,” he says. “You’re a producer; he’s an artist. You have a shared goal, which is to make a sick electronic album. You get on with it very quickly. It just becomes about music. It doesn’t matter about levels of fame…. Not to say it wasn’t a weird day—a very weird day.”"