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My mate starts objecting when I am indignant that A Guy Called Gerald and 808 state were the only worthwhile manchester contribution to dance music. Next time she objects, I will direct her to your posts. Do you want that? Defend your turf!

What about fugging autechre? And all the gescoms?
 

thirdform

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What about fugging autechre? And all the gescoms?

Rochdale. that's gangster manchester.

Low company appealed to the picadili mandem. new order joy division acolytes. rochdale was urban. the stratford of its day. a proper shithole.

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catalog

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So now you are saying Rochdale is not Manchester? Are you out of your tree mate? Literally all of the Manchester music you can think of is greater Manchester.

Mondays were Salford, and quite far out Salford. Roses were from all over the shop but as far as alty and auden Shaw and places. Jonny Marr was from Wythenshawe.

You ain't making sense here try harder please.

Oh yeah I thought of some other good dance music producers from manchester: Croww and Acre.
 

thirdform

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So now you are saying Rochdale is not Manchester? Are you out of your tree mate? Literally all of the Manchester music you can think of is greater Manchester.

Mondays were Salford, and quite far out Salford. Roses were from all over the shop but as far as alty and auden Shaw and places. Jonny Marr was from Wythenshawe.

You ain't making sense here try harder please.

Oh yeah I thought of some other good dance music producers from manchester: Croww and Acre.

greater manchester is not manchester. hence everyone getting so confused which places up north were gonna be in lockdown. look i will quote an expert on this if you really need me to.
 

catalog

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Yeah I know technically what Manchester and Greater Manchester are you donut. But if you discount the outer bits, you discount a lot of what is considered Manchester music. Ian Curtis was from Macclesfield. Up here it's no odds if you're 20 mins on the train away. Do you know how near Rochdale is to Victoria on the train.

Have you ever been to Manchester honest question
 

thirdform

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Yeah I know technically what Manchester and Greater Manchester are you donut. But if you discount the outer bits, you discount a lot of what is considered Manchester music. Ian Curtis was from Macclesfield. Up here it's no odds if you're 20 mins on the train away. Do you know how near Rochdale is to Victoria on the train.

Have you ever been to Manchester honest question

yeah, loads. can also go from some parts of london to essex in 20 mins.
 

thirdform

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look i'll quote it. manchester are seen as colonisers! unequivocally. 100% no disputing it!

Mark Hayward
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Where even is Greater Manchester? Someone might need to clarify to us Greater Manchester residents that we do actually live in GM for this new lockdown. Here's why. Altrincham, Hale, and Bowdon think they're in Cheshire. They're not anymore, they're in Trafford, but are heavily in denial and often driving large Range Rovers and erecting obscene gates (that defeat the object of them living in any beautiful scenery as they can't see it) to ensure people think they're definitely Cheshire. Cheadle Hulme is also in denial. They'll tell you they moved there "for the schools". There's a whole load of "Cheshire influencers" in Altrincham and Stockport getting a reality check tonight as to what county they're in. Sale also claims to be in Cheshire but that's just whack. Trafford is home to the Lancashire Cricket Ground, even though it's now geographically closer to Cheshire and definitely not in Lancashire. Stockport changes its mind as to whether it's Cheshire or Manchester according to the situation and current trends (and in fairness, Bramhall is pretty posh, and Hazel Grove perhaps - they would say they're in Cheshire though). Marple used to be part of Glossop which is actually Derbyshire although Marple was at one point in time, Cheshire. It's now Greater Manchester with a Stockport postcode but kind of still looks a bit Derbyshire-ish and calls itself Cheshire. It's near a whole load of villages filled with people that have no idea where they are and who all look strikingly similar.
Anyway, over to Wigan, you have Standish - the semi-posh part of Wigan. The top of Standish borders Chorley which actually is genuinely Lancashire. Head across to West Lancs or is it Merseyside? Basically it all starts to sound a bit Scouse as you go towards Skelmersdale. In fact, where the hell does Skelmersdale even fall? Mind you, no one goes to Skem anyway, it's just a sign on the M58. Ah, Bolton. Another proud Lancastrian sat confused in Greater Manchester's sprawl (at least residents of Horwich have Rivington close by for outdoor exercise, which while extremely popular with doggers from across the North West - avoid twilight jogs by the way, is technically Chorley so is in proper Lancashire).
Bury, Rochdale and Oldham think they're in Lancashire still (although some parts of Rochdale and Oldham used to be in West Yorkshire and many remain confused as to where the border is - somewhere in Saddleworth apparently, could be near trendy Uppermill or maybe near where they built a motorway around some poor farmer's house, or maybe Oldham Mumps wherever that is - you may have seen it on a tram, it's a place not a disease). Many in these towns also drive Range Rovers, although they're best avoided as they tend to be career criminals (there are career criminals in Cheshire too, but they're posher and serve more affluent clientele). This particularly applies to Prestwich, a generally popular area in....well, it's close to the city centre and Salford but calls itself Bury, the cosmopolitan part. It's Greater Manchester nonetheless. You can get a closer look at this good looking crowd on a roofbar in Spinningfields like 20 Stories, they'll be taking selfies for the 'Gram near the lifts, with Beetham Tower in the background. Chorlton and Didsbury are safely in Greater Manchester and both seem content with this, even though many of their residents actually live in Rusholme and Whalley Range but ride a bike and look quirky so fit in with the West Dids crowd.
Now to my old friend Salford. Salford stands alone as a city in a city - is it even "proparrr Manc R kid?" Media City isn't in Manchester really. It's in Salford. But that's Greater Manchester apparently, even though it's a whole separate city with a separate council and pretty pink bins. You'll also find plenty of Range Rovers and huge houses in Worsley, although they don't claim to live in Cheshire, they're Salford done good. They're not really Mancunian either, they're Salfordian, although haemorrhage Manchester bees at an alarming rate. They're just focused on pretending they live in Worsley and NOT Swinton despite the M27/M28 postcode giveaway (I once lived near the border and actively engaged in those antics myself). Nearby, well not that nearby, you'll find Little Hulton, a place that is definitely in Salford but close to Bolton yet calls itself Worsley. Worsley is on the way to city status if you believe the postal addresses of most in the region. Worsley is close to Leigh which is kind of Wigan-ish and down the road from Haydock, which isn't Lancashire any more. It's Merseyside. Even though it's right down the road from Wigan, and therefore Greater Manchester. Phew. Oh, and I've absolutely no idea where Tameside even is.

QED!
 

catalog

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So what exactly qualifies as 'manchester' for you. Are you working it out based on postcodes and metropolitan District boundary lines?
 

thirdform

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So what exactly qualifies as 'manchester' for you. Are you working it out based on postcodes and metropolitan District boundary lines?

Yeah postcode wars are the only acceptable nationalism.

It's not me though even. if half of your lot think they're from cheshire and lancashire then all I can say is forced assimilation to the six music mindset.
 

woops

is not like other people
that's right, anyway to me 20 minutes away on the train or not manchester is totally different to lancashire towns ie it had some good venues and people into interesting music but then i (a) was too young for the raves in blackburn etc (b) couldnt get out of lancashire to london fast enough (c) have never joined the church of stone roses, i like the fall
 
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