Pope Francis

Has there been serious backlash to his more progressive tendencies, or is it just people/bots making noise online?

 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
all this talk about how he made an off-hand comment to an interviewer when the tape wasn't running about how the gays should be allowed to live as a family unit means nothing - the act of gay itself will always be a sin and so the LGBT community will never be accepted fully into the church. It's posturing to suggest otherwise in an attempt to bring the church into 2020.

It doesn't bother me - even the most staunch Catholics I know don't have a problem with me, their personal faith and belief systems are up to them and as long as they don't impact me I couldn't give a fuck.
 

thirdform

Well-known member
all this talk about how he made an off-hand comment to an interviewer when the tape wasn't running about how the gays should be allowed to live as a family unit means nothing - the act of gay itself will always be a sin and so the LGBT community will never be accepted fully into the church. It's posturing to suggest otherwise in an attempt to bring the church into 2020.

It doesn't bother me - even the most staunch Catholics I know don't have a problem with me, their personal faith and belief systems are up to them and as long as they don't impact me I couldn't give a fuck.

to be fair you probably have 200 years of inter-religious bloody wars to thank for the west getting so sick of christianity and mostly calling it quits. We need another hundred years more bloodshed in the middle east before our lot will. :(
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
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Lot prevents sodomites from raping the angels, Heinrich Aldegrever, 1555

After supper that night before bedtime, the men of the city, young and old, gathered around Lot's house demanding he bring his two guests out that they might "know" them. Lot went out and closed the door behind him and prayed that they not do such wicked things, and offered them his virgin daughters, that had not "known" man, that they might know them instead, and do with as they pleased. His response infuriated the men of Sodom who accused him of being judgmental and they threatened to do worse to him than they would have done to the men.


The Bible really is a rollocking good read.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
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Lot prevents sodomites from raping the angels, Heinrich Aldegrever, 1555

After supper that night before bedtime, the men of the city, young and old, gathered around Lot's house demanding he bring his two guests out that they might "know" them. Lot went out and closed the door behind him and prayed that they not do such wicked things, and offered them his virgin daughters, that had not "known" man, that they might know them instead, and do with as they pleased. His response infuriated the men of Sodom who accused him of being judgmental and they threatened to do worse to him than they would have done to the men.


The Bible really is a rollocking good read.

Have you read it now?
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
According to the wiki I just skimmed, Catholicism isn't so much against sodomy/homosexuality as much as it is against any non-procreative sexual act. I knew that they don't like anything non-procreative, but I thought there was an additional thing on top of that which made them anti-gay.

I would guess the origin of this is in promoting social cohesion/order by forbidding lustful acts which will fuck up society?

Or maybe just something to do with the shame that accompanies certain lustful acts? Like, why is it that christians decided wanking was bad when most people have a great time wanking? Is it because wanking leads you to neglecting your duties, perhaps? Or that you feel quite depressed after having a wank, probably doubly so when you're living in the desert and you've got sand in your peehole.
 
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