polystyle

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There's this, too:

"Joe Biden is expected to call Saudi Arabia’s King Salman, as his administration prepares to release a declassified intelligence report that many experts expect will name the royal’s son and heir as complicit in the grisly murder of Jamal Khashoggi."

https://theguardian.com/world/2021/...report-saudi-arabia-mbs-king-salman-complicit

Today :
 

polystyle

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Today :
Coming late to these threads, apologies !

Well ... and then there is President Joe
Joe Biden
"Life Under Biden'

I don't feel 'under' Biden.
He has had to make some things up as he has gone along.
' How do you defeat DJT ? ' they cracked it and one of the balls in play -
the far right bald ball caroomed off a bank to now have turned into video exposing - nearly - the whole lot Proud Boys Boogie boys etc.
Not sure how the Southern hillbillies and pillbillies think of those ... types, 'sorts'.
Now they face schism, a fight to the farthest right - as their guiding light orange lode *hit Star

Same time ... he was the old guy who won,
choose Kamala Harris as VP
and so far seems to have better information,
is in touch with different attitudes
and has made a large effort to get in new people including essentially - more women.
So far , he has better people then Obama had in his time.
If Kamala becomes Pres, that will be something.

In meantime , under Biden proper -
will be Vlad and Xi .
Syria pinned back in one go,
Anniversary of Crimea's invasion Russia noted
Libya on borrowed time ( Russia carves there against Turkey there )
The House of Saud just got notice.

It will take time to get things going again, DJT damaged alot of people not just 'institutions'.
So while things are rubble, best time to think better and remake.
They don't need to get the Russian bugs out of the systems -
best make a new one.
Likewise the grid and well , everything.

Some of the is out of B's purview.
But he can do a lot to let best ideas bubble up and work by knowing when to move and when not to.
Of course he's old, a lifer and trad.
 

polystyle

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Coming late to these threads, apologies !

Well ... and then there is President Joe
Joe Biden
"Life Under Biden'

I don't feel 'under' Biden.
He has had to make some things up as he has gone along.
' How do you defeat DJT ? ' they cracked it and one of the balls in play -
the far right bald ball caroomed off a bank to now have turned into video exposing - nearly - the whole lot Proud Boys Boogie boys etc.
Not sure how the Southern hillbillies and pillbillies think of those ... types, 'sorts'.
Now they face schism, a fight to the farthest right - as their guiding light orange lode *hit Star

Same time ... he was the old guy who won,
choose Kamala Harris as VP
and so far seems to have better information,
is in touch with different attitudes
and has made a large effort to get in new people including essentially - more women.
So far , he has better people then Obama had in his time.
If Kamala becomes Pres, that will be something.

In meantime , under Biden proper -
will be Vlad and Xi .
Syria pinned back in one go,
Anniversary of Crimea's invasion Russia noted
Libya on borrowed time ( Russia carves there against Turkey there )
The House of Saud just got notice.

It will take time to get things going again, DJT damaged alot of people not just 'institutions'.
So while things are rubble, best time to think better and remake.
They don't need to get the Russian bugs out of the systems -
best make a new one.
Likewise the grid and well , everything.

Some of the is out of B's purview.
But he can do a lot to let best ideas bubble up and work by knowing when to move and when not to.
Of course he's old, a lifer and trad.

And then does this ?
Say huh ? wtf


 

version

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I think it was inevitable. They're too important an "ally". He's released the report, which I guess is something. But it also makes the decision look worse since everyone can now see it says the Crown Prince ordered the killing.

There's apparently a travel ban on lower level people, but dunno that anyone really cares. His response hasn't gone much further than Trump's, other than releasing the report and being a bit more "professional" about the whole thing. Also shows the difference between campaign trail Biden and elected Biden,

The decision by Mr. Biden, who during the 2020 campaign called Saudi Arabia a “pariah” state with “no redeeming social value,”

:rolleyes:
 

version

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Leo

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trump and biden administrations both played up the vital role of the saudis in helping the US fight terrorism, but I always wonder about that. would the saudis actual let (or help) terrorism flourish if we took a firm stance against MBS?
 

luka

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trump and biden administrations both played up the vital role of the saudis in helping the US fight terrorism, but I always wonder about that. would the saudis actual let (or help) terrorism flourish if we took a firm stance against MBS?
@craner this is your passion. give us a speech.
 
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version

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trump and biden administrations both played up the vital role of the saudis in helping the US fight terrorism, but I always wonder about that. would the saudis actual let (or help) terrorism flourish if we took a firm stance against MBS?
They threatened Blair with as much when people started looking into their arms deals,
 
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