The Madness of American Culture

IdleRich

IdleRich
I made a thread on the disappearance of the serial killer where I think lead poisoning came up. The main theories I've heard for the number of American serial killers in the second half of the 20th century are lead poisoning, Vietnam, head injuries and stuff like MKUltra.
Serial killers seem to have made a bit of a come-back recently though (at least that's my anecdotal take on it from reading headlines).
 

version

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I always thought that was this guy, who wrote anonymous public letters under the pseudonym Wanda Tianasky, whom people at the time actually thought was a pen name for Pynchon himself

Tom Hawkins[edit]
Main article: Tom Hawkins (writer)
Thomas Donald Hawkins (January 11, 1927 – September 23, 1988) was born in Pangurn, Arkansas. He grew up in Port Angeles, Washington and graduated in 1950 from the University of Washington with a degree in English. He married Kathleen Marie Gallaner and worked for Boeing in the early fifties, then in Beaumont, Texas in television, for station KFDM, and advertising. In 1960 he moved to San Francisco to join the Beats, supporting himself as a postal worker. After his work was rejected by local Beat publications, he took to self-publishing under the name "Tiger Tim" Hawkins. As a fan of William Gaddis, Hawkins discovered newspaper, the self-published Gaddis fansheet of "jack green". He became convinced that green was Gaddis, a detail that would show up in the Tinasky letters. Tinasky also claimed that "The novels of William Gaddis and Thomas Pynchon were written by the same person".

After Hawkins retired, he and Kathleen moved to Mendocino County just outside Fort Bragg, where they lived in poverty for most of the eighties. Hawkins engaged in petty scams and thefts, and took to disguising himself. Kathleen came into an inheritance and bought a car for herself and a pickup truck for her husband. She also bought a kiln, and began a promising career in pottery.[citation needed]

Three weeks after the last (according to Foster) authentic Tinasky letter, Hawkins bludgeoned Kathleen to death, and kept her body inside their house, unburied. After several days, he set fire to their house and drove her car off a cliff into rocky shoals, killing himself.[citation needed]

At the time, no one connected the end of Tinasky with the Hawkinses' murder–suicide. Indeed, this event didn't altogether stem the flow of Tinasky's invective: at least one "copycat" letter, by Foster's account, had been published while Hawkins was alive, and these continued to trickle out for a short time after his death.
There was that other guy who wrote under the name "jack green" and spent his time attacking critics of William Gaddis too. I think some people even thought all four - Gaddis, Pynchon, Green, Tinasky - were the same person.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Probably not all the same person but if that list involved three or fewer truly different people I wouldn't be that surprised...
 

version

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They were all confirmed as separate people: William Gaddis was William Gaddis, Thomas Pynchon is Thomas Pynchon, "jack green" is Christopher Carlisle Reid and "Wanda Tinasky" was Tom Hawkins.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Serial killers seem to have made a bit of a come-back recently though (at least that's my anecdotal take on it from reading headlines).

There was one in Leamington Spa recently. He got caught when he fell asleep in a car he'd stolen.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
That Canadian guy who was meeting people online, getting em out of it on GHB and then suffocating them.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I doubt we'll see that era of people like Ian Brady or Ted Bundy again - you can't get away for murder for ages with DNA and CCTV and so on. I think with Ted Bundy they had loads of lists of potential suspects but they couldn't compare them properly and then someone says "Hey police we've got this you might want to use called a database" and so they stuck all the info into that and there were only five people on all lists with the right car, fitting the description, living in the right area and so on.
 

beiser

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this is, de-facto, our euro-american relations thread—something I've been fascinated with lately is the comments section in the FT, and especially on pieces about antitrust suits against american tech giants. Every time, it devolves into a food-fight, with the Europeans alleging that the Americans are brutes, who would allow people to prostitute out their firstborn children if it raised GDP, and Americans alleging that the Europeans are engaged in a sort of covert trade protectionism, where they make up for tax revenue with a sequence of arbitrary antitrust rulings, as a substitute for building an actual domestic tech sector.

the most fun is of course when the Europeans claim there is a perfectly healthy tech sector on the continent—what about Wirecard, they would say? Or Skype?

Hard to say if it really is equity structure, or just some kind of pathological decelerized brain-state, or perhaps something cultural. I have quite often wondered if Europe would benefit from taking on—in the style of the Chinese cultural revolution—a grassroots movement to destroy their monuments, to burn down cathedrals, to raze the museums to the ground, in order to create the space necessary to create a new culture. Perhaps that's too much, perhaps it should just be locked away, but truly—I think it's the shadow of the past that makes it so hard to create a new future.
 

catalog

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boxedjoy did a good opening thread about his fav tunes, like top10 of all time and the situations etc, you could try that maybe, when you get a minute obviously.

what sort of music do they play at the swanky west coast tech weirdo parties?
 

beiser

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boxedjoy did a good opening thread about his fav tunes, like top10 of all time and the situations etc, you could try that maybe, when you get a minute obviously.

what sort of music do they play at the swanky west coast tech weirdo parties?
there are no parties, there have been no parties for years, and we're in a lockdown, you know? you just tell people there are parties, it's the oldest trick in the book.
 

catalog

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you've caught yourself out now, you're being too clever. i know for a fact your bluff was just that. game over, or will there be a double bluff?
 
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