sus

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I was just saying to a friend, get this: the wunderkind fashionblogger Helena St Tesseract (of Ezra Koenig's Neo Yokio) is not just based on Koenig's ex-gal Tavi Gevinson, herself a wunderkind fashionblogger, but is also played by Tavi. Tavi, we might recall, is a huge Young-Girl Theory (Tiqqun) fan who founded Rookie Mag at like 12, her best foray into autofiction the Infinity Diaries, which center on her and Koenig's relationship.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I was just saying to a friend, get this: the wunderkind fashionblogger Helena St Tesseract (of Ezra Koenig's Neo Yokio) is not just based on Koenig's ex-gal Tavi Gevinson, herself a wunderkind fashionblogger, but is also played by Tavi. Tavi, we might recall, is a huge Young-Girl Theory (Tiqqun) fan who founded Rookie Mag at like 12, her best foray into autofiction the Infinity Diaries, which center on her and Koenig's relationship.
Wow - no fucking way!
 

constant escape

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Any substantial takeaways from that Tiqqun piece? I've read the Coming Insurrection, which I can't say I;ve retained much from. I was a bit stunned by the grandeur surrounding it, admittedly.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It's funnier if you've read the Tiqqun I swear
Go on then, as I've taken the piss I will endeavour to make amends or do penance or something and try and understand that utterly mystifying paragraph above.
Start at the beginning - what is Tiqqun?
But what I don't understand is how it can be a revelation (that was the pay-off wasn't it?) that someone is played (as in acted by) a particular person. If you've seen the thing then you would know surely?
I mean if I watch something with a character A based on real life person X, then surely, if I know who X is I'll realise that X is playing A which is based on him/herself. And if I don't know who X is then I won't get the joke to start with.
I'm so confused.
 

sus

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Go on then, as I've taken the piss I will endeavour to make amends or do penance or something and try and understand that utterly mystifying paragraph above.
Start at the beginning - what is Tiqqun?
But what I don't understand is how it can be a revelation (that was the pay-off wasn't it?) that someone is played (as in acted by) a particular person. If you've seen the thing then you would know surely?
I mean if I watch something with a character A based on real life person X, then surely, if I know who X is I'll realise that X is playing A which is based on him/herself. And if I don't know who X is then I won't get the joke to start with.
I'm so confused.
Tiqqun's Theory of a Young Girl is all about how the young girl exists/circulates as commodity. Gevinson and Helena both trade their fashion blogging for political activism. But they're still stuck in their own images, influencing a consumer base (of fellow young girls, who imitate their look & behaviors), and even as they're radicalized, the only thing that changes in practice is the content of their Instagram feed. Even Helena's revolutionary anti-capitalist anti-fashion becomes a global trend. There's no escaping the matrix of images, etc.

As for actors, it's an anime series—so they're all voice actors, I suppose I ought to have specified.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Tiqqun's Theory of a Young Girl is all about how the young girl exists/circulates as commodity. Gevinson and Helena both trade their fashion blogging for political activism. But they're still stuck in their own images, influencing a consumer base (of fellow young girls, who imitate their look & behaviors), and even as they're radicalized, the only thing that changes in practice is the content of their Instagram feed. Even Helena's revolutionary anti-capitalist anti-fashion becomes a global trend. There's no escaping the matrix of images, etc.

As for actors, it's an anime series—so they're all voice actors, I suppose I ought to have specified.
"Trade their fashion blogging for political activism"- you mean they kinda lure people in by blogging fashion, but then they switch it up and suddenly WHAM they're laying politics on these unsuspecting fashion victims? But, the built-in problem is that this approach only works on the kind of people who are gonna follow the fashion bait to start with?
And what you're saying is that one of the people who does that is called Tavi Gevinson and someone based an anime on her - the character being called Helena - and Tavi herself voices that character (I did guess from what you were saying it had to be animated or a radio play or something).
OK, that makes sense.
And Tiqqun, how does she fit in other than that Tavi is a fan of her?
 
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