Obama's Legacy

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
He definitely sold himself as a leftist firebrand in 2008. He literally cribbed his entire rhetorical strategy from Roberto Unger, who was advising his campaign.
all I can say is that if you think what he was peddling in 2008 was leftist firebrand, we have very divergent ideas of what "leftist firebrand" entails

I would agree that he didn't even live up to the tepid promises he did make, which is exactly why Unger dumped him so hard in 2012
 

chava

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Surpringly honest talk from his recent autobiography:

Looking back, it’s embarrassing to recognize the degree to which my intellectual curiosity those first two years of college paralleled the interests of various women I was attempting to get to know: Marx and Marcuse so I had something to say to the long-legged socialist who lived in my dorm; Fanon and Gwendolyn Brooks for the smooth-skinned sociology major who never gave me a second look; Foucault and Woolf for the ethereal bisexual who wore mostly black. As a strategy for picking up girls, my pseudo-intellectualism proved mostly worthless; I found myself in a series of affectionate but chaste friendships.
 
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Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
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@padraig (u.s.) - yeah, I thought you'd probably say FDR. I know Eisenhower is often regarded as one of the 'greats', but as you say, it was also the golden age of CIA 'adventuring' all round the world. (Although, in the case of arguably the most damaging coup in the long term, i.e. Iran, from what I know of what happened, the UK bears at least as much blame as the USA does.)
 

Leo

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Surpringly honest talk from his recent autobiography:

Looking back, it’s embarrassing to recognize the degree to which my intellectual curiosity those first two years of college paralleled the interests of various women I was attempting to get to know: Marx and Marcuse so I had something to say to the long-legged socialist who lived in my dorm; Fanon and Gwendolyn Brooks for the smooth-skinned sociology major who never gave me a second look; Foucault and Woolf for the ethereal bisexual who wore mostly black. As a strategy for picking up girls, my pseudo-intellectualism proved mostly worthless; I found myself in a series of affectionate but chaste friendships.
I'm sure trump has similar recollections from college.
 

Mr. Tea

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I'm sure trump has similar recollections from college.
I expect he spent most weekends in an expensive whorehouse. Quite possible one owned by his dad, thereby not even having to pay.
 
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